[After a lot of backspacing and second guessing, a second message comes:]
You have a friend from your plane now. One who will use pictures and stuff, and you can make jokes with. It's different from Lan Wangji, but it's not different from me. Wouldn't people like things that are more familiar?
I tried being nice, even though it's weird and I don't know him. But he started saying that you agree with him, and that you said I would bully him. And then he went and told you I was being mean.
I don't know what to do. Do you really think I'm being cruel? I don't want that. I don't want you to like him better than me. I can try again. I didn't mean it when I said I could be worse.
[What is she saying?? That he's biased? TOO biased, and in favour of Nie Huaisang? Parts of this are absurd, and parts are uncomfortably accurate, and parts he's no longer sure of at all. It will take him some time, a few circlings maybe, to figure things out.]
It is different from you, so much different! Is that what this is about? You felt like I liked my old friend better, that I took his side? Klaudia there aren't any sides! Or there don't have to be. And he's not even really more familiar, I don't remember the last time I saw him before I died...He wasn't there, and isn't scared of me now, and I thought that was pretty lucky, you know? The odds aren't good, for my generation. But that doesn't mean you have to treat him a particular way, it's true.
[But none of that really matters, if he's wronged his present friend in the process. It's just easy to forget that she's not as brash as the face she puts on.]
I don't know if you were being cruel deliberately or not, but it's not up to me either way, only you would know that. But maybe you should think about it awhile, before telling me. Or not telling me, if you want.
You don't have to worry about me liking him better than you, it's not a competition. You're my friend, you would stand up for me against dogs or small Lans or probably anything! (Don't do it though) Do you think I can find that just anywhere? You're also smart and very respectable even by Lan Zhan's standards and usually only mean when it's very funny. Clearly you are possessed currently to even be thinking like this, but it's fine because you're friends with the most powerful ghost cultivator, for life and also the next life, as a bird. Do you want an essay too? Or are you convinced?
[Klaudia spends a long time reading over these messages. In part because she keeps having to push her glasses out of the way to rub the tears out of her eyes, and in part because she's trying to sort through what she should say back. Her head hurts, and her eyes hurt, and her chest hurts. She thought for sure that he was going to tell her that of course his old friend meant more, and the first few bits of his message had her heart twisted in a vise, waiting for that shoe to drop. But the second half chokes her up in a different way, filling her chest so full that it's painful--but in a way that lifts her, rather than crushes her.]
Do you really mean that? You're not mad? Even after I told your old friend that I'd use my magic to make him hate birds? Is that the possession too? Maybe you're the possessed one. You're even offering to write an essay and not complaining even a little bit about it.
[The relief Wei Wuxian feels is likewise overwhelming, and disorienting in its variety. Klaudia isn't making any more threats of real bullying, seems like a known and treasured quantity again, more alike than not in the willingness to make jokes around pain without trying to cause more.]
I wouldn't just say it if I didn't mean it, would I? I'm not mad, I was...surprised, a little. We may not even be possessed by evil spirits at all.
[He doesn't want to push his luck, especially after he gave her the space to avoid it, but doesn't it deserve acknowledgement if he wants it to stick?]
If it was possession, it was a pretty mean ghost, and I'm glad there won't be any evil bird magic to contend with.
[The confirmation that she's not going to harass Nie Huaisang with bird illusions comes easily enough. It was a spur of the moment threat--one that she certainly could do, but she had no appetite for it now. The rest of it... That's harder to address, but the confirmation that he means it all and he's not mad; that boosts her willingness to keep talking. To try and see things from her dear friend's perspective.]
The ghost was a little mean maybe... Maybe I got possessed when your friend implied that I didn't trust you. That was probably a curse of some kind, right? A mean one.
...What should I do? If that happens again? I don't want to let him say things like that. I *would* fight dogs and small Lans and anything else, so saying that I don't trust you is wrong and not funny at all. I don't want him to think otherwise. Or you.
You don't have to worry that I'll think otherwise regardless of any curses from Nie Huaisang. And I do see that it was a joke in...bad taste, considering a lot of things. But I think he meant it the opposite of how it sounded. Like when I say something about Hanguang-jun to prove a point. The joke was not trusting me, not the idea that somebody would in the first place. I think he knows I respect you a lot, and assumed it was the same for you, and made a joke that referenced that, since you don't trust him yourself.
But, if it happens again, instead of getting cursed about it, you could just tell him to not do that. If you can tell him what pictures he can and can't use, that should be easy. Or if you really don't like something he says about me, you could talk to me about it, still without curses. Though I don't think it will happen again.
If it was a joke, then we're in agreement that it was a bad one. ["If he stuck his head in a book, maybe he'd know better ones"... is what she types, and then backspaces.] But it didn't feel like a joke, it felt like a threat.
It's easy to tell him to not do that, but I don't think he'll listen. He didn't listen about the bird picture. I don't see why he'll listen about anything else. I'll try it anyway, but I don't want to have to run to you every time he does something rude. That's being just as bad as him then, isn't it?
...Are you sure I can't curse him a little bit if he's rude again? Or tells another bad joke? I can make a snake instead of a bird. You said he already doesn't like those, so that's not being very mean, right? Maybe a small one? No fangs. Technically harmless.
I don't think he would threaten anybody! But if he's actually rude, you can curse him a little bit I guess. But try not to curse him for jokes he doesn't know are bad, at least until he learns more. I think he didn't know the picture was such a big deal, but will listen, especially now. I think this is all just a whole lot of worry about Nie Huaisang that isn't necessary! And it's not running to me in a bad way if there's a real reason. 🤏🐍 🚫🔪🐦
🤏🐍! 😈🤝👻 (But only if he's rude. Or if it's really funny and not mean.)
How can you be so sure that the worry isn't necessary? I'm not saying it is! But you keep saying that like it's obvious, and I don't see it. Am I missing something? Is it stuff from your plane? Or is it like ☁️ and I'm just not good at spotting it yet?
[This text is clearly the hard-won result of a mental ordeal.]
I guess it's a combination of things. He wasn't a clan leader when I knew him, and didn't really want to be. I think he barely wanted to be a cultivator at all, definitely not any of the parts that require a sword. When we were trapped and thought we would have to fight through a wall of fierce corpses that weren't really corpses, he got so scared Lan Zhan had to silence him (funny, not too mean). I guess it's hard for me to think he might be any different from then, even if I didn't see him much even when I was still alive and kind of forgot about him. It isn't like ☁️, but he hasn't seen me at my worst. Surely heard about it though, and still isn't really scared, even though he's scared of a lot of things. Who knows why he isn't this time? I don't really need to.
[Oh. A realization dawns on Klaudia that hadn't been in her thoughts before. Maybe it was weird for Nie Huaisang to be so attached and not afraid of her friend, but it was also... kind? She might not know the particulars of their friendship, but she can understand wanting to be treated like a normal person, even knowing that others should be afraid. It's a relief to have something like that... And she suddenly feels very small and foolish for being so vehemently against him being around.]
...I didn't think about how nice he was being to a 👻. I still don't think anyone should be afraid of you. ...But he's being normal about it, so I'll be nicer to him.
[She lets that sit for a moment before adding:]
I'm sorry I tried to scare your friend away. I was being mean, and I shouldn't have been.
['Kind' is further than Wei Wuxian is prepared to go, truly having meant that he didn't need to know why Nie Huaisang is so willing to ignore the specifics of his reputation. And ideally Klaudia would not try to scare anyone away, regardless, unless they deserved it. But this is probably a groundbreaking enough admission for now. Making anything of it might scare her away instead.]
Well the good news is you are also not someone that people should be afraid of, so once I've convinced him you don't think he murders innocent birds, he probably won't be.
[Also not someone that people should be afraid of... That would be nice for her, too, if she could manage it. She's still not sold on that part, especially where Nie Huaisang is concerned, but the alternative isn't very good, and she's promised to try.]
I don't think it was calling him a bird murderer that he was afraid of. It might take more convincing than that.
Are you making me say it to make a point? That's very ☁️ of you.
I told him that I could use illusions to make him not like birds. And while I'm sure that he does not know what I had in mind exactly (and do not have in mind anymore), he could probably imagine.
🚫☁️! We are so different, how can you say that when I'm not trying to make a point at all, just asking for a sand cultivator's thoughts.
I'm sure that was scary, but didn't I just mention about the fierce corpses? He probably couldn't imagine, because that's a weird threat, but either way that's all it was.
Can't believe the sand cultivator would say this and not explain it, how am I supposed to learn?
It was a long time ago, the ✨🐦 was stealing the spiritual consciousness of a lot of people and making them into ghost puppets. I fought it with ☁️ and had to let it think I was unconscious before I could get it, it was very sneaky and used a lot of disorienting magic. Bullying me for being smart. I don't know why there are so many question marks, when I say I've fought something!
If you don't know by now, then maybe you won't ever learn! Besides, I don't know how to explain it. You're both... warm. ☁️ like a blanket and 👻 like cider.
The question marks are because you never told me about it before. Do I not get to know heroic 👻 stories? Do I have to ask ☁️ to tell me all of them?
Why was the ✨🐦 stealing "spiritual consciousness"? What does that mean? It's like some kind of sentience, right? Like a soul? Does that make 👻?
Maybe I won't! I don't think anyone would ever expect to hear ☁️ was like a blanket, but the proof is right here in front of me! Didn't I tell you he's good? If 👻 is like cider then you should get cider for a 👻.
Well I did a lot of things, and I don't like to brag because of how humble I am. But I think asking ☁️ to talk about my heroics would be very funny. Way more than making me do it.
It makes 🍖👻, basically, until you return it. One problem being, you can't just fight people who are only temporarily 🍖👻. The ✨🐦 was a tool of another cultivator clan with bad intentions.
What's so funny about it? I've already asked ☁️ for 👻 stories. He's told me a few, but when it comes to details, I have to prompt him.
Being a temporary 🍖👻 sounds weird and uncomfortable. 👻 aren't supposed to be temporary. Are there a lot of bad clans like that? What were they even trying to do with so many 🍖👻?
...I don't know about cider, but can we get 🌶️🍲? Maybe? I'll get 🍶 for a 👻 too.
It's very funny unless he actually tells you and then it's embarrassing. But probably still fine because it'll be a Lan Zhan story and very factual. And beneficial for your education because of all the tricks and techniques, and the moral lessons. So I guess you can, but I'm going to haunt you.
There aren't a lot of good or bad clans, mostly they are just throwing banquets and sending disciples on night hunts and not doing anything interesting, I assume. The 🍖👻 were mostly just a distraction. That clan didn't stay in power for long.
I think that's the best idea a sand cultivator has ever had, and that's saying something.
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Date: 2021-12-20 09:22 pm (UTC)From:You have a friend from your plane now. One who will use pictures and stuff, and you can make jokes with. It's different from Lan Wangji, but it's not different from me. Wouldn't people like things that are more familiar?
I tried being nice, even though it's weird and I don't know him. But he started saying that you agree with him, and that you said I would bully him. And then he went and told you I was being mean.
I don't know what to do. Do you really think I'm being cruel? I don't want that. I don't want you to like him better than me. I can try again. I didn't mean it when I said I could be worse.
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Date: 2021-12-20 09:44 pm (UTC)From:It is different from you, so much different! Is that what this is about? You felt like I liked my old friend better, that I took his side? Klaudia there aren't any sides! Or there don't have to be. And he's not even really more familiar, I don't remember the last time I saw him before I died...He wasn't there, and isn't scared of me now, and I thought that was pretty lucky, you know? The odds aren't good, for my generation. But that doesn't mean you have to treat him a particular way, it's true.
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Date: 2021-12-20 10:11 pm (UTC)From:I don't know if you were being cruel deliberately or not, but it's not up to me either way, only you would know that. But maybe you should think about it awhile, before telling me. Or not telling me, if you want.
You don't have to worry about me liking him better than you, it's not a competition. You're my friend, you would stand up for me against dogs or small Lans or probably anything! (Don't do it though) Do you think I can find that just anywhere? You're also smart and very respectable even by Lan Zhan's standards and usually only mean when it's very funny. Clearly you are possessed currently to even be thinking like this, but it's fine because you're friends with the most powerful ghost cultivator, for life and also the next life, as a bird. Do you want an essay too? Or are you convinced?
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Date: 2021-12-21 12:08 am (UTC)From:Do you really mean that? You're not mad? Even after I told your old friend that I'd use my magic to make him hate birds? Is that the possession too? Maybe you're the possessed one. You're even offering to write an essay and not complaining even a little bit about it.
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Date: 2021-12-21 12:34 am (UTC)From:I wouldn't just say it if I didn't mean it, would I? I'm not mad, I was...surprised, a little. We may not even be possessed by evil spirits at all.
[He doesn't want to push his luck, especially after he gave her the space to avoid it, but doesn't it deserve acknowledgement if he wants it to stick?]
If it was possession, it was a pretty mean ghost, and I'm glad there won't be any evil bird magic to contend with.
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Date: 2021-12-21 01:18 am (UTC)From:[The confirmation that she's not going to harass Nie Huaisang with bird illusions comes easily enough. It was a spur of the moment threat--one that she certainly could do, but she had no appetite for it now. The rest of it... That's harder to address, but the confirmation that he means it all and he's not mad; that boosts her willingness to keep talking. To try and see things from her dear friend's perspective.]
The ghost was a little mean maybe... Maybe I got possessed when your friend implied that I didn't trust you. That was probably a curse of some kind, right? A mean one.
...What should I do? If that happens again? I don't want to let him say things like that. I *would* fight dogs and small Lans and anything else, so saying that I don't trust you is wrong and not funny at all. I don't want him to think otherwise. Or you.
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Date: 2021-12-21 04:01 am (UTC)From:But, if it happens again, instead of getting cursed about it, you could just tell him to not do that. If you can tell him what pictures he can and can't use, that should be easy. Or if you really don't like something he says about me, you could talk to me about it, still without curses. Though I don't think it will happen again.
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Date: 2021-12-21 06:18 am (UTC)From:["If he stuck his head in a book, maybe he'd know better ones"... is what she types, and then backspaces.] But it didn't feel like a joke, it felt like a threat.
It's easy to tell him to not do that, but I don't think he'll listen. He didn't listen about the bird picture. I don't see why he'll listen about anything else. I'll try it anyway, but I don't want to have to run to you every time he does something rude. That's being just as bad as him then, isn't it?
...Are you sure I can't curse him a little bit if he's rude again? Or tells another bad joke? I can make a snake instead of a bird. You said he already doesn't like those, so that's not being very mean, right? Maybe a small one? No fangs. Technically harmless.
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Date: 2021-12-21 04:17 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2021-12-21 09:59 pm (UTC)From:How can you be so sure that the worry isn't necessary? I'm not saying it is! But you keep saying that like it's obvious, and I don't see it. Am I missing something? Is it stuff from your plane? Or is it like ☁️ and I'm just not good at spotting it yet?
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Date: 2021-12-22 07:15 pm (UTC)From:I guess it's a combination of things. He wasn't a clan leader when I knew him, and didn't really want to be. I think he barely wanted to be a cultivator at all, definitely not any of the parts that require a sword. When we were trapped and thought we would have to fight through a wall of fierce corpses that weren't really corpses, he got so scared Lan Zhan had to silence him (funny, not too mean). I guess it's hard for me to think he might be any different from then, even if I didn't see him much even when I was still alive and kind of forgot about him. It isn't like ☁️, but he hasn't seen me at my worst. Surely heard about it though, and still isn't really scared, even though he's scared of a lot of things. Who knows why he isn't this time? I don't really need to.
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Date: 2021-12-22 07:50 pm (UTC)From:...I didn't think about how nice he was being to a 👻. I still don't think anyone should be afraid of you. ...But he's being normal about it, so I'll be nicer to him.
[She lets that sit for a moment before adding:]
I'm sorry I tried to scare your friend away. I was being mean, and I shouldn't have been.
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Date: 2021-12-23 03:29 am (UTC)From:Well the good news is you are also not someone that people should be afraid of, so once I've convinced him you don't think he murders innocent birds, he probably won't be.
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Date: 2021-12-23 06:34 am (UTC)From:I don't think it was calling him a bird murderer that he was afraid of. It might take more convincing than that.
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Date: 2021-12-23 08:42 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2021-12-23 09:08 pm (UTC)From:Are you making me say it to make a point? That's very ☁️ of you.
I told him that I could use illusions to make him not like birds. And while I'm sure that he does not know what I had in mind exactly (and do not have in mind anymore), he could probably imagine.
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Date: 2021-12-23 09:39 pm (UTC)From:I'm sure that was scary, but didn't I just mention about the fierce corpses? He probably couldn't imagine, because that's a weird threat, but either way that's all it was.
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Date: 2021-12-24 12:32 am (UTC)From:I guess. I still don't see it, but... I will believe you! Because he's your friend! And because I'm not explaining how easy it is to imagine. ❌✨🐦
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Date: 2021-12-24 04:07 am (UTC)From:Just like I am choosing to believe you that ✨🐦 could be scary. I've seen ✨🐦, I've fought ✨🐦! Wasn't a problem for me.
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Date: 2021-12-24 04:41 am (UTC)From:When did you fight a ✨🐦???
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Date: 2021-12-24 09:38 pm (UTC)From:It was a long time ago, the ✨🐦 was stealing the spiritual consciousness of a lot of people and making them into ghost puppets. I fought it with ☁️ and had to let it think I was unconscious before I could get it, it was very sneaky and used a lot of disorienting magic. Bullying me for being smart. I don't know why there are so many question marks, when I say I've fought something!
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Date: 2021-12-25 10:21 pm (UTC)From:The question marks are because you never told me about it before. Do I not get to know heroic 👻 stories? Do I have to ask ☁️ to tell me all of them?
Why was the ✨🐦 stealing "spiritual consciousness"? What does that mean? It's like some kind of sentience, right? Like a soul? Does that make 👻?
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Date: 2021-12-26 04:29 am (UTC)From:Well I did a lot of things, and I don't like to brag because of how humble I am. But I think asking ☁️ to talk about my heroics would be very funny. Way more than making me do it.
It makes 🍖👻, basically, until you return it. One problem being, you can't just fight people who are only temporarily 🍖👻. The ✨🐦 was a tool of another cultivator clan with bad intentions.
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Date: 2021-12-26 06:14 am (UTC)From:Being a temporary 🍖👻 sounds weird and uncomfortable. 👻 aren't supposed to be temporary. Are there a lot of bad clans like that? What were they even trying to do with so many 🍖👻?
...I don't know about cider, but can we get 🌶️🍲? Maybe? I'll get 🍶 for a 👻 too.
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Date: 2021-12-26 06:38 pm (UTC)From:There aren't a lot of good or bad clans, mostly they are just throwing banquets and sending disciples on night hunts and not doing anything interesting, I assume. The 🍖👻 were mostly just a distraction. That clan didn't stay in power for long.
I think that's the best idea a sand cultivator has ever had, and that's saying something.
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