I'm sure someone has to know! ...Just not anyone that I've met. Or maybe I have met them, but it's embarrassing to ask, isn't it? It feels like something I should already know, but the only things I know are what I've read about. And people don't write a lot of useful things about tieflings.
Is it weird to be a little magical?? You can fly around on somewhat sentient swords apparently, so a π» shifu shouldn't be using that many question marks! The magical part is normal, I think? It doesn't work here, though. I think this place siphons that away too. But for instance... In my world, I could see at night almost as well as I could during the day. A little greyer, but still good enough to work or read by. It took me a while to figure out why people needed candles at all.
Is it embarrassing to ask? Maybe a little. I used to ask questions to anyone who had known my mother, so maybe I'm very embarrassing. But who am I to lecture the questions cultivator about asking questions, ignore this ghost. I don't think it's a matter of 'should' is what I mean. Unless people are writing un-useful things about tieflings, then they should not.
It's not weird! But it's different, I wasn't born with the ability to fly a sword. Or see in the dark, unfortunately. And it IS weird for that to be siphoned away, I think. Have mercy on this struggling ghost, and I will retract the question marks. It's just hard to think about, what if my charming nature was deemed magical and siphoned away? You can see how upsetting this is as a concept.
No ghost ignoring here! ...What kind of questions did you ask? And what kind of answers did you get? I'm not sure it's the same, but I'd like to know anyway. Did you feel embarrassed about it when you asked? It's hard to imagine a ghost feeling embarrassed about anything.
A struggling ghost can have mercy! But I am collecting the errant question marks for later. ββββ‘οΈπΌπ
Maybe your charming nature is magical anyway. How do you know it's not? You have an awful lot of it! Maybe mine is too, but we're both too powerful to have it all siphoned away. I don't think this place would be able to handle it; that would be too dangerous. It'd be better to less us keep it. π
You're right, I barely know what embarrassing is and never have, so there's no need to imagine it. But I guess mostly I just felt so much like I needed to know, at any cost. Because it's the only way I could, so I had to take any opportunity. I'm not sure it's the same either but I think the sand cultivator will understand, or at least I hope so. Unfortunately I didn't get many good answers either, but I'm not sure that was possible.
I don't think you're going to wait until later at all, so here's some extra. π»β‘οΈβββββββ‘οΈπ
That makes too much sense not to be rightπ€. But it should have let you keep everything! Letting us have our specialties is alright, I suppose. And, of course, the charming nature. It just seems very unfair suddenly, though I guess I REALLY shouldn't complain except on your behalf.
...I do understand! I do. I'm sorry you didn't get any good answers. I wish you could get them. It's...different from not knowing things about yourself. Like, if you didn't know what humans were capable of or how long they lived or what sorts of things were good or bad for them... Maybe vegetables really aren't good for me! Do other tieflings think they taste bad too? I wouldn't know. I only know human things. But not knowing people that you're supposed to know... That feels weird too. Maybe it's the not knowing that's the embarrassing part, more than the asking?
...Can I ask a ghost what happened? Where did she go? If a ghost wants to say. I can take those βs back if not. Put them back in the ππΌ.
Not having my abilities has always been unfair! But it only bothers me when I think about it now. Or when it gets really hot and I have to actually feel it. Or when I need to grab something off a high shelf, and I can't magically pick it up... And being out at night was scary at first too. I've never seen dark like that before except in rooms with no windows. But when I picked up light magic, that helped.
...Okay, maybe I still think about it a lot. I wish we could have both! I'm going to be just as disappointed if I can't do this kind of magic now. Do you miss yours too? Or is it similar enough to the magic you have here? πΆππ»?
This ghost appreciates the sand cultivator's understanding and attempts to understand in return. It's hard to imagine not knowing those kinds of things either, since I only really knew human people. Cultivators are still just people, even if they can live a long time and give a lot of consideration to what is or isn't good, and every sect's cultivation is different and sometimes secret, so no one knows everything that's possible. That's not the same, this is just π»π€. But I don't think the not knowing should be embarrassing either, even if it's hard not to be. And we may not know a lot about tieflings, but we know a lot about one tiefling in particular, which I can write down if you want. I will still support ππ«π₯¬ though just to be sure.
It's fine to ask, it's so far in the past, I just forget you don't know already. My parents died on a nighthunt when I was very young, so I don't remember almost anything about them. That's why I had to ask. My mother in particular was an accomplished cultivator, but a rogue one, so even asking didn't get me all that much.
It's not so dissimilar...to a point. The π»s. The other kind too, honestly. But that still leaves all the other things, π‘οΈ things, lightness skill, talismans that do whatever. I can see why you would miss alchemy a lot though. No more β³β¨ π»π₯
I wish the not knowing wasn't so embarrassing! I wish I was just as not embarrassed as you think I should be. But I am... It's even worse around other tieflings. How am I supposed to ask them about things I should already know? Maybe they'll think there's something wrong with me. Maybe there is. I just don't want to think about it. Maybe a π» shifu can write a book about all the things he knows about exactly one tiefling, and I'll read that instead. They'll be things I already know, like β³β¨ and β ππ«π₯¬, and I'll feel very smart to know everything already. Klaudia-laoshi can be an expert on π»π€s about πs at least.
...I wonder if there's a way you could ask about her here. I mean, this whole place is supposed to be outside of time, right? Have you ever been to π the calamity? Cataclysm? I forget what they're calling it. But you can π things in it. Places and things from different times and planes, like they're all frayed together. I tried to draw a couple in my notebook, but they move too much, and I'm not good at those kinds of pictures. But if we can see into it, maybe there's a better way to sort through it? ...I don't know. These are just ππ€ now!
No more β³β¨ would be very upsetting, but I'm sure I could make β³β¨ happen with my normal β¨. I mean, I'm pretty sure I could make all of the β¨ that happens here in my normal β¨! Even the π»β¨! Though I would only do the good kind... Helpful π»β¨. Mostly, I just miss...not having limitations. If I couldn't do something, it was because I wasn't skilled enough yet! Not because I wasn't allowed or it wasn't accessible. That's the part that's not fair. I want to do all the β¨.
Maybe once we fix the time disaster, we'll get our normal β¨ back. Then you'll have all your other things again too. And you can show me all your talismans and your lightness skill! And the π‘οΈ things obviously. I have to learn those properly too.
Well there definitely isn't anything wrong with you and I would hope other tieflings would understand that without even needing to read my book. And you can be an expert on most of the book but I'd make sure there was some new material as well, for flavor. Because I have so much Klaudia knowledge and I know learning new things is important.
I don't know, that thing seems like it's too important to poke around in just for...even for very good reasons, which I'm not sure I have. And what if I saw something terrible instead? Maybe more embarrassing than having to ask questions. Good ππ€, though! There might be some more controlled way to π here that doesn't involve any cataclysms or calamities or whatever, since there's everything else. Would actually be weirder if there weren't. But I think as a now very senior π» I don't feel the need to know so pressingly as I used to.
Wanting to do all the β¨ is just reasonable! But not everyone thinks so. Especially about π»β¨, even the most helpful kinds. Or maybe not THE most helpful kinds, I think maybe stopping π» attacks is the most helpful and that is certainly encouraged, but that's about it. But I have to say, β¨ that can do it all sounds just as far fetched as this extremely divided system did to start with. All the β¨s here? Even phone curses?
I could probably definitely show you at least some of it. But it's just very hard to predict when so much "normal β¨" is based in things that still might not be here. Might not work, for several reasons. So many things go into learning π‘οΈβ¨ properly! And it's been so long since I had to think about it like this. But maybe it would work just fine, no way to know.
What new material? Are you saying you know things that I don't about π?? You have to tell me now! I don't want to wait for a book. You can't keep secrets like that! Forget the other tieflings, I want to know the Klaudia things. πΏπ₯Ί!
I think wanting to know about your mother is a good enough reason to do anything... Maybe I have things I want to sift through too, so it doesn't have to be just for π» reasons. Even if π» reasons would be more than enough! It's not like we're going to break it just by looking at it. But if a π» is worried, there might be something in the street market that comes around every month... Do you really not need to know as much anymore? Does feeling like that just go away after a while? It doesn't feel wrong to just stop wondering as much?
...When I said all of the β¨, I guess I wasn't thinking about phone curses! We don't have phones. Though there's definitely a lot of kinds of curses, and you don't have to be physically present for all of them. You can curse armor and weapons and plenty of other stuff... so if we *did* have phones, then we could probably curse those too. I guess there's some β¨ that maybe I wouldn't be able to do... Like divine β¨? Maybe. I think it's silly that there's β¨ that only gods can give you. Magic is magic, and maybe I'll get to prove that I can do that too. Theoretically.
I hope all of the "normal β¨" works! I want to learn how to fly on a π‘οΈ now that I have one too... It would be really upsetting to have a π‘οΈ and it doesn't fly. Think about how sad it would feel, when all the other π‘οΈ can do it... π‘οΈπ₯Ί! I don't want it to feel left out...
π«πΏπ₯Ί! Is it really so unbelievable? Clever π», knows things. Knew π would make a good disciple, for one. Two, knew π¦ was the top choice for a next life. There's just no telling how much π»s know. πππ
What would you want to sift through to π? I can't say for sure if you would stop wanting to know over time, but probably not, because of how you are. It's different for a π». I'd still like to know some things, but it sort of feels like it's just all the past, now. A past life. It used to be very important to have an idea to live up to, but this senior is leaving that to the younger generation now.
You're right, that is silly. Though I guess gods are just like that in all the stories. But shouldn't there be more than one way to anything? Even immortality you can get from a divine power in one go or you can cultivate yourself. Isn't that 'begging others is the same as begging yourself'?
Somehow I don't think you need to worry about this. You and your π‘οΈ would both be like babies. Do babies feel sad because they can't walk? This is going to give your shifu a headache so I'm choosing to believe they don't. π«π‘οΈπ₯Ί.
πππβ‘οΈπΌπ! π has been a very good disciple, it's true! So it's only fair that anything that a π»-shifu knows, he should immediately tell to a π, who always listens to and remembers everything that he says, right? πππ!
...I guess I can tell you what I was π for. It's another thing that's really embarrassing to not know, but since you told me about your mother... then I guess it's a little bit the same. I would want to π my father. He's a π like me, but I've never met him. I don't know if he's alive or not, or what he looks like... I only know his name, and he was really good at β¨ too. But if we can π all times and places here, then maybe I could see where he went and what happened to him... if something did happen. Or maybe he's just fine, but someplace that I haven't found him. It would just be nice to know something, I think. Anything. ...Or maybe it doesn't matter anymore. I'm not sure! It's been harder to think about lately, I guess. But the opportunity is there, for both a π and a π». So if it's there, shouldn't we take it while we can?
I haven't heard of "begging others is the same as begging yourself"? What is it? βοΈ-shifu said I shouldn't beg others for things, but he didn't say anything about begging myself. I'm not even sure how someone would do that. Or does it mean, if I can ask someone else to do something, then I can also just do it myself? I would agree with that.
A π»-shifu is being so mean to me and also my π‘οΈ! I would cover its ears if it had any! We're not babies; you're the baby. πΆ-shifu. ππ€ Even if my π‘οΈ isn't sad about not flying, I'll feel sad for it, knowing that it could be flying but isn't. Maybe I just want it to be the best π‘οΈ ever. Isn't that only right?
It's exactly for those reasons that your π»-shifu can't. You remember everything so well and learn so fast, what happens when I run out? No need for a π»-shifu then. Better not to risk it. πππβ‘οΈπΌπ»
Well it matters if you think it matters, and that's not embarrassing at all! Or it shouldn't be. That's a little different anyway, you want to know something very specific, and there's real questions to answer...Definitely worth π. Or I can see how it would be. It's fine to change how you feel, and a thing doesn't have to matter for you to be interested in knowing it. But still, we're the same in not knowing too many specifics, even if I don't have those same kinds of questions.
ππ ππ ππ That's exactly what it means. Though maybe that's as much encouragement to crack divine β¨ as I should be providing. πΆ π«β‘οΈπ¦΅π
πΆ-shifu ππππππ I'm not being mean! Flight takes awhile for even the most naturally talented cultivators to learn. But yes, with a sentiment like that you're already getting the hang of things and I'm sure your πΆπ‘οΈ will be the best π‘οΈ ever in time. Even if I have to put a π‘οΈπ» in it.
Even if a π»-shifu did run out of things to teach (which is clearly impossible!), he would still be a π»-shifu. Isn't that how it works? No risks! Only π for π!
I'm... not sure if finding him matters. That's the hard part. But it would still be nice to know, I think? Or maybe I just want to know because I was so set on knowing before... I don't know what I would do with that information anymore. It's just... a lot of very specific questions, yes, like you said. Maybe boring questions for a π» to hear. And maybe it's not the same at all. I don't know. If a π» doesn't want to π, then maybe a π should leave it alone too.
ππ! Those are better. A π doesn't need encouragement to crack divine β¨ but it's nice to have! π«π¦΅! πβ¨ does not involve more 𦡠like πβ¨, there's nothing to worry about there.
π«πΆπ‘οΈ! ...π«π»! Why would you have to put a π» in my π‘οΈ?? Isn't that like possession? What if that upsets it? You say you're not being mean, but that does sound really mean! I have other things you can put π» into instead of my π‘οΈ...
See, you've even learned how it works already. I better start writing. πππππβ¨
Not boring questions! I still don't know about messing with the catastrophic cataclysm but having concrete questions instead of just vaguely wishing you had more memories would have to be helpful, even if we found some kind of tool for it at the market instead. You can't say you wouldn't want to π just because of me though. And maybe you'd know what to do with the information once you had it, maybe it's not having it that causes some of the confusion. But I wouldn't want you to feel like you had to do anything with it. You know, if you decided you didn't want to. It's always so complicated, you know?
It's not 𦡠I'm worried about! It's a saying! You can have as many 𦡠as you like. What's so good about divine β¨ anyway? Who needs it? Besides paladins I think. π»ππ.
Well I mean if the regular π‘οΈβ¨ doesn't work, then it might be time to try a π». A π‘οΈπ» only! And only for π‘οΈ! Unless you write why it's for your cultivation. Normally you'd have to put the ghosts in on your own, if you wanted to forge a spiritual tool that way...or not normally, actually, definitely not. But theoretically, if that were the path you were taking. Like with the divine β¨, there has to be more than one way to anything.
...No, I don't know. *Is* it always so complicated? I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I don't think that having the information would make it better. I'm a little scared to have it at all... If he's still alive and I find out where he is, then doesn't that mean I should go find him? If I don't want to find him anymore, then isn't that wrong? Not just because he's my father, but because I already put so much towards it in the first place. And if I don't even look anymore because I'm afraid of finding him, then isn't that just as bad? Maybe it would be easier if a π» told me it wasn't important or it was no good to try.
Paladins do need divine β¨, and clerics too. And maybe πs can have a little, I think. It's for healing and protection... and sometimes for bringing people back from the dead. But in the socially acceptable way that isn't at all like necromancy (except in the ways that it obviously is!).
I don't understand... Does my π‘οΈ not have its own π»? Or if one needs to be put in, can't I put the π» in myself? I mean, not here obviously! But maybe once we've fixed everything and we get our β¨ back? Or is that a special kind of β¨ that's hard to learn too? I can practice really hard, if I have to! Did you put a π» in your sword? Did βοΈ put one in his?
I don't think it's that complicated all the time, but a lot more than someone might think. I also don't think it's helpful to worry about "should" or "wrong". Or "bad". Can a π» tell you that instead? If you feel like you don't want to find out anymore, if you'd rather just put it behind you, that's just how you feel. Even a ghost cannot be so flippant here as to lie to a disciple and say it isn't important for sure, but figuring out what you want is the most important, and βοΈ would definitely agree. It should be you deciding, not how much work you already did or the fact that he's your father, or good at the same things. You don't have to find out, and if you do find out, you don't have to do anything else. He should be proud of you, if he knew, but if he weren't that wouldn't change anything about you, either. This ghost-shifu is sorry there isn't anything more certain to say.
Is it very hard to resurrect someone in the socially acceptable way? And is that the difference, just who does it? I guess that isn't so unusual. Still, it seems strange to even have a socially acceptable and a socially unacceptable way. But maybe that's the divine β¨ part. I guess this all makes sense and isn't even that different when I say it like this.
Well, it should develop its own spiritual consciousness through your advancing cultivation, so in a sense you would be putting the π» in the π‘οΈ yourself, but also not, because the π‘οΈ just does that. Does that make sense? That would be considered the ideal and most orthodox way, to the extent that doing anything else would be...questionable. So of course, βοΈ did not do such a thing as put a π» in a π‘οΈ. I didn't either actually, but not because of any of that, I was just busy. Anyway, you know if there was any problem, I would be sure to come up with a solution! But there's no need to worry about any of this, because you are still in the 'practice really hard' stage.
A π» can tell me that if he wants to, but a πΏ still doesn't know what to do. Maybe that's not fair, asking you to decide what I should do. It's just hard to think about... I don't know anything about him--anything important, and I don't think that he even knows I exist. Maybe he wouldn't want that to change. I've thought about that, too. But... I want a father that would want to know me and be proud of me. That's what I want. But I know that wanting doesn't make it true... and it's scary to not know. ...There was a fae that pretended to be my father, back when Celliwig was testing us. I didn't even think that about it not being him; I wanted it to be, so so much. But it felt... bad. He wasn't nice to me, even if I wanted him to be. He would have killed me, if βοΈ wasn't there to stop him. And I know that wasn't really him, but what if it's the same? I don't know how I can decide if I want to find him, if I won't know until I meet him. Maybe he'll be cold like the fae was. Maybe he won't want me at all. I'm not sure how you can say that wouldn't change things... It feels like it should. It feels like everyone was born with a little space of their own--like a πΌ planted in a pot, but no one had a Klaudia pot. So I thought maybe my father had it. Maybe if I found him, then I would know what being a properly planted ππΌ was like. But if he doesn't, then maybe I really don't have one at all. Do you see? Hard to think about. Scary to think about. A π»-shifu can be sorry that there isn't anything more certain to say because a Klaudia is also sorry too.
I don't know if it's very hard to resurrect someone in the socially acceptable way, but I do know it costs a lot of money. You need precious gems--or the money to pay for them, and then extra money to pay to the temple. Necromancy is easier, probably. If I could do either, I would do it for free. Maybe that's why πs aren't allowed to have divine β¨. All the gods and temples would be broke and also mad.
I know that a π»-shifu has a lot of solutions to problems that a π hasn't even made yet! But I'm still going to practice really hard, since that's the stage I'm in. I'll think very hard about my π‘οΈ having a π» in it, especially when I'm doing β¨. Do gifts help? I think you said that before, when I wanted to put a π» in a π³. I'll give it a lot of little gifts too, and make sure that it feels appreciated. π
Well he probably wouldn't try to kill you, if he were real and not a fae, that's one thing to start with, but I know that's a pretty low target to hit. And I didn't mean to say it wouldn't change anything at all! But it wouldn't change anything about you, that is no less true, except maybe how you feel. That could change, but how you are wouldn't, because you're already a very inquisitive and determined and righteous sand cultivator, as well as a very good disciple we are glad to have. Does the ππΌ pot have to be the same one that should exist when you are born, or can there be a different one that's also good enough? Can someone else make one, later? Maybe that's also scary to think about, and not the usual way, but. Maybe it's not that unusual either. And maybe the original pot that may not exist wasn't any good, and getting a personally made one is better in the end. Some certain things a ghost can say.
Hang on. The gems aren't part of the money? They're part of the resurrecting? So you still need money too? That's pretty practical for a divine decision, but a little anticlimactic, too. I don't know how I feel about this.
They can't hurt. Make sure they're π‘οΈ appropriate gifts! Not π³ gifts. Clean it, store it properly--Is this what it feels like to be βοΈ? π»π€π΅. A fitting name, don't cut fruit with it, keep it with you, π»π€π΅ππ.
[If that isn't such a weird feeling, to be so fretful and absorbed in thinking about a father that may or may not want her, and then to be reminded of her two very good shifus for whom there's no question. A buoy where she didn't expect one to be--and yet a smidge of guilt for being unsure if those things are of equal measure.]
...I don't know. That's a lot of π» questions and π» maybes. I don't know what makes a pot a good one. Not having to make it yourself? Not having to fight for it? Is that a good answer? Maybe it's not even about the pot being good or not. I can't imagine any pot being bad, but if it was, then it was still mine. Someone still made a space for ππΌ. ...But maybe a βοΈ-shifu wouldn't want me to say that. I should have a good pot. A bad one is no good. Don't tell him I said the other thing. It's just hard, and maybe a ππΌ is being silly about wanting a specific pot that might not exist, regardless of whether it's good or bad.
What do you mean, you don't know how to feel about this? Is that so weird for magic to have specific components? Does your β¨ just work with anything you throw at it? You have to have diamonds to bring someone back to life. I'm not sure why... I just know that diamonds are used in a lot of magic that deals with divination or protection. Lots of life energy. Bright and good for seeing things.
Why would I cut fruit with my π‘οΈ??? It would get so dirty doing that. And sticky. It would definitely need to be cleaned often if I did that--which I'm not! ...Going to do that, I mean. I'm going to clean it! Every day if I have to! And I'll make a stand for it, so it can be comfortable when I'm not holding it. ...Can I keep it in my hammock when I sleep? Will that make a better π»? What if the π‘οΈ appropriate gifts are just that I love it a lot? I don't know what π‘οΈ appropriate gifts actually are... I don't know why π»π€π΅ππ! It should be πΏπ€π΅! For the π‘οΈ gifts!
π» questions and π» maybes are this ancestor's legacy as well as good for your β¨, but a π» can say things for certain as well, because π»s are so talented. There are definitely bad pots, and your βοΈ-shifu would certainly say you should have a good one, and he would be right as expected. It's not silly to want things, is another certain thing. That just happens. Those things you said can make a good pot, but they aren't the only things.
Mine does, because of all the talent, as I just said. But no, components are usually pretty specific, it's just that diamonds aren't generally one? For that, I would expect blood, though I suppose it's not that different from using precious substances like cinnabar, now I think about it that way. Mostly it was the money that was giving me problems, though.
π»π€π΅ππ just because! It's very funny for me to be saying these things with such a thick face considering I am guilty of breaking most of these rules as well as many others. But I got better, so you still have to listen to me. And don't think of it like you are going to make problems, you aren't. That's not what the solutions are for.
π»s are very talented. ππΌs can learn a lot from them. What other things can make a good pot? Other than the things I already said? And if it's not the original one, then is it still just as good? Not the kind of good where it's good but it could have been better?
Blood?? No wonder people make faces about reviving the dead, if you're using that... Even if you weren't reviving the dead, I think they would still make faces. The money is just to pay for the service, though. That's pretty standard, isn't it? Do you go to the doctor and not pay to be treated? I guess if the doctor was very nice, but I think that sounds unlikely.
...Are you sure you got better? You let me use your sword to draw in the sand the first day I met you. I could have run off with it! Not that I would have, but you barely even checked! Maybe I should give π»π‘οΈ a π‘οΈ gift too...
Making the pot yourself isn't so bad, for one thing. People don't get any say in their original pot, so sometimes that causes problems. But what if other people made the pot and it wasn't because they were expected to? Wouldn't that also be good? What if someone wanted to, and what if they were good at it specifically because they have knowledge that didn't even exist for the original pot? Doesn't that at least have the potential to be better? π»β. πΌπ₯£. ππ.
I didn't use blood all the time, and sometimes it wasn't even real blood, and anyway what's wrong with blood? Are people too good to use free blood now? Blood is too cheap compared to gemstones? Unbelievable. And can't doctors be nice where you're from? I can truthfully say I've never paid a doctor in my life.
I let you borrow Suibian for sand cultivation, which in that case was just like drawing an array. It sounds like you think the sand is the unorthodox part and not the borrowing, but I think both are fine, unless the π‘οΈ is especially cranky. Besides, I knew if you ran off with it I could catch you (π€) unless you ran up the wall like a π¦, which would have been worth seeing. π«ππ€·π‘οΈ necessary.
...I don't know. Can a π say that again? Even if she's said that a lot? Maybe a ππΌ doesn't know pots at all. She can have a π₯£, she would probably think it's a pot anyway.
Making a pot when you're not expected to sounds... good. I think. Too good, maybe. Would someone make a pot for a πΌ that wasn't theirs? Especially if the πΌ is maybe one that isn't liked so much. It sounds like a lot of work, and for what? To have a πΌ to look at? It doesn't sound like a good trade.
I guess it depends on what kind of blood you mean? Animal blood? Probably fine, but a little weird. Dragon blood? Super powerful, good for magic. People blood? Bad. Get out of town, don't come back. Maybe your blood is just weird and fine. Maybe your doctors are too. Do they have other jobs and don't need money to buy food and whatnot?
π«π«ππ€·π‘οΈ! Why the ππ€·?? They would be ππ or πβ¨, you can't doubt me like this... πΏπ₯Ί And the sand isn't unorthodox, it's just dirty. I hope you cleaned Suibian afterwards! If you didn't, maybe I'll run away with it for real. I'll crawl into something π€ where you can't get me, which is also like a π¦! Then I can have two π‘οΈ and they can be friends.
A π₯£ is the same as a pot! So she should! Unless she doesn't think it's suitable and so disagrees. It could happen. Maybe everyone should be a little more openminded and reasonable about containers.
And maybe at the same time people should be a little more restrained with their analogies, because I think I've lost track. Wouldn't someone make a pot? Wouldn't that mean they do like the πΌ actually? Maybe it's not that much work, or a trade. Maybe it's a noble πΌ! Did anyone consider it?
Get out of town??? So rude. It's free! Everyone is jealous of the blessing of clean living. As to doctors, it depends. Sometimes it's their cultivation, sometimes it's just their responsibility within the sect, sometimes it's probably like how people will pay cultivators with food. I don't have that much experience with civilian doctors, I guess, but I bet the good ones accept payment in food.
Not ππ€·, π€·π‘οΈ. I'm sure the π would be very π and β¨, π«πΏπ₯Ί. If I pretend I remember cleaning Suibian just because of a little sand, will that convince you not to steal it and hide like a π¦? If you want two spiritual weapons at least pick something that isn't π‘οΈ! Doesn't even have to be an instrument.
Maybe it was a bad analogy too. Maybe πΏs don't know about containers or analogies. π«π₯£π«ππ«πΏ!!! I just don't know how to feel about it. What does someone get out of that? Making a place and a home for someone that isn't theirs, especially when most people wouldn't. Wouldn't it have to be a trade? Otherwise, why wouldn't anyone else have done it? Where does the difference come in? Does the πΏ have to be a noble πΌ then? Is that what does it? I can be a noble πΌ, but maybe a π₯£ isn't so good if that's the only reason for it.
Maybe a πΏ just has too many π and she should put some of them away (π«π₯£π!) before she chases a π» into the π³π³π³.
I don't make the blood rules! I think if I did, there just wouldn't be any. I think if I was going to do some kind of illicit summoning ritual, I would use something much cooler than blood. Like etching the runes into stone with black pudding slime or something. Original! Complex! Mysterious! Unless demons only get summoned with blood because they don't like other flavors. Very picky demons, if so. Maybe they need more vegetables too. Maybe they can be bribed with food, like cultivators and doctors.
What is π€·π‘οΈ? Why is π€·π‘οΈ?? That's even worse then π€·π! πΏπ₯Ί! ...Maybe I can be convinced not to steal it and hide like a π¦, but I will not be convinced that it doesn't need π. I don't need two spiritual weapons, but what if I want two? Everyone else has an instrument. Are they all special? Like π‘οΈ? If not an instrument or a π‘οΈ, then what else is there? What are my options if I want a friend for my π‘οΈ? (If your π‘οΈ and my π‘οΈ can't be friends, which I think they should be because we are. Maybe yours can tell mine π‘οΈ secrets, and it'll be a good π‘οΈ one day.)
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Date: 2022-08-27 05:01 pm (UTC)From:I'm sure someone has to know! ...Just not anyone that I've met. Or maybe I have met them, but it's embarrassing to ask, isn't it? It feels like something I should already know, but the only things I know are what I've read about. And people don't write a lot of useful things about tieflings.
Is it weird to be a little magical?? You can fly around on somewhat sentient swords apparently, so a π» shifu shouldn't be using that many question marks! The magical part is normal, I think? It doesn't work here, though. I think this place siphons that away too. But for instance... In my world, I could see at night almost as well as I could during the day. A little greyer, but still good enough to work or read by. It took me a while to figure out why people needed candles at all.
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Date: 2022-08-27 07:04 pm (UTC)From:Is it embarrassing to ask? Maybe a little. I used to ask questions to anyone who had known my mother, so maybe I'm very embarrassing. But who am I to lecture the questions cultivator about asking questions, ignore this ghost. I don't think it's a matter of 'should' is what I mean. Unless people are writing un-useful things about tieflings, then they should not.
It's not weird! But it's different, I wasn't born with the ability to fly a sword. Or see in the dark, unfortunately. And it IS weird for that to be siphoned away, I think. Have mercy on this struggling ghost, and I will retract the question marks. It's just hard to think about, what if my charming nature was deemed magical and siphoned away? You can see how upsetting this is as a concept.
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Date: 2022-08-27 10:35 pm (UTC)From:A struggling ghost can have mercy! But I am collecting the errant question marks for later. ββββ‘οΈπΌπ
Maybe your charming nature is magical anyway. How do you know it's not? You have an awful lot of it! Maybe mine is too, but we're both too powerful to have it all siphoned away. I don't think this place would be able to handle it; that would be too dangerous. It'd be better to less us keep it. π
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Date: 2022-08-28 10:45 pm (UTC)From:I don't think you're going to wait until later at all, so here's some extra. π»β‘οΈβββββββ‘οΈπ
That makes too much sense not to be rightπ€. But it should have let you keep everything! Letting us have our specialties is alright, I suppose. And, of course, the charming nature. It just seems very unfair suddenly, though I guess I REALLY shouldn't complain except on your behalf.
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Date: 2022-08-29 04:03 am (UTC)From:...Can I ask a ghost what happened? Where did she go? If a ghost wants to say. I can take those βs back if not. Put them back in the ππΌ.
Not having my abilities has always been unfair! But it only bothers me when I think about it now. Or when it gets really hot and I have to actually feel it. Or when I need to grab something off a high shelf, and I can't magically pick it up... And being out at night was scary at first too. I've never seen dark like that before except in rooms with no windows. But when I picked up light magic, that helped.
...Okay, maybe I still think about it a lot. I wish we could have both! I'm going to be just as disappointed if I can't do this kind of magic now. Do you miss yours too? Or is it similar enough to the magic you have here? πΆππ»?
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Date: 2022-09-03 08:24 pm (UTC)From:It's fine to ask, it's so far in the past, I just forget you don't know already. My parents died on a nighthunt when I was very young, so I don't remember almost anything about them. That's why I had to ask. My mother in particular was an accomplished cultivator, but a rogue one, so even asking didn't get me all that much.
It's not so dissimilar...to a point. The π»s. The other kind too, honestly. But that still leaves all the other things, π‘οΈ things, lightness skill, talismans that do whatever. I can see why you would miss alchemy a lot though. No more β³β¨ π»π₯
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Date: 2022-09-03 11:43 pm (UTC)From:...I wonder if there's a way you could ask about her here. I mean, this whole place is supposed to be outside of time, right? Have you ever been to π the calamity? Cataclysm? I forget what they're calling it. But you can π things in it. Places and things from different times and planes, like they're all frayed together. I tried to draw a couple in my notebook, but they move too much, and I'm not good at those kinds of pictures. But if we can see into it, maybe there's a better way to sort through it? ...I don't know. These are just ππ€ now!
No more β³β¨ would be very upsetting, but I'm sure I could make β³β¨ happen with my normal β¨. I mean, I'm pretty sure I could make all of the β¨ that happens here in my normal β¨! Even the π»β¨! Though I would only do the good kind... Helpful π»β¨. Mostly, I just miss...not having limitations. If I couldn't do something, it was because I wasn't skilled enough yet! Not because I wasn't allowed or it wasn't accessible. That's the part that's not fair. I want to do all the β¨.
Maybe once we fix the time disaster, we'll get our normal β¨ back. Then you'll have all your other things again too. And you can show me all your talismans and your lightness skill! And the π‘οΈ things obviously. I have to learn those properly too.
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Date: 2022-11-06 02:29 am (UTC)From:I don't know, that thing seems like it's too important to poke around in just for...even for very good reasons, which I'm not sure I have. And what if I saw something terrible instead? Maybe more embarrassing than having to ask questions. Good ππ€, though! There might be some more controlled way to π here that doesn't involve any cataclysms or calamities or whatever, since there's everything else. Would actually be weirder if there weren't. But I think as a now very senior π» I don't feel the need to know so pressingly as I used to.
Wanting to do all the β¨ is just reasonable! But not everyone thinks so. Especially about π»β¨, even the most helpful kinds. Or maybe not THE most helpful kinds, I think maybe stopping π» attacks is the most helpful and that is certainly encouraged, but that's about it. But I have to say, β¨ that can do it all sounds just as far fetched as this extremely divided system did to start with. All the β¨s here? Even phone curses?
I could probably definitely show you at least some of it. But it's just very hard to predict when so much "normal β¨" is based in things that still might not be here. Might not work, for several reasons. So many things go into learning π‘οΈβ¨ properly! And it's been so long since I had to think about it like this. But maybe it would work just fine, no way to know.
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Date: 2022-11-06 03:23 am (UTC)From:I think wanting to know about your mother is a good enough reason to do anything... Maybe I have things I want to sift through too, so it doesn't have to be just for π» reasons. Even if π» reasons would be more than enough! It's not like we're going to break it just by looking at it. But if a π» is worried, there might be something in the street market that comes around every month... Do you really not need to know as much anymore? Does feeling like that just go away after a while? It doesn't feel wrong to just stop wondering as much?
...When I said all of the β¨, I guess I wasn't thinking about phone curses! We don't have phones. Though there's definitely a lot of kinds of curses, and you don't have to be physically present for all of them. You can curse armor and weapons and plenty of other stuff... so if we *did* have phones, then we could probably curse those too. I guess there's some β¨ that maybe I wouldn't be able to do... Like divine β¨? Maybe. I think it's silly that there's β¨ that only gods can give you. Magic is magic, and maybe I'll get to prove that I can do that too. Theoretically.
I hope all of the "normal β¨" works! I want to learn how to fly on a π‘οΈ now that I have one too... It would be really upsetting to have a π‘οΈ and it doesn't fly. Think about how sad it would feel, when all the other π‘οΈ can do it... π‘οΈπ₯Ί! I don't want it to feel left out...
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Date: 2022-11-06 04:17 pm (UTC)From:π«πΏπ₯Ί! Is it really so unbelievable? Clever π», knows things. Knew π would make a good disciple, for one. Two, knew π¦ was the top choice for a next life. There's just no telling how much π»s know. πππ
What would you want to sift through to π? I can't say for sure if you would stop wanting to know over time, but probably not, because of how you are. It's different for a π». I'd still like to know some things, but it sort of feels like it's just all the past, now. A past life. It used to be very important to have an idea to live up to, but this senior is leaving that to the younger generation now.
You're right, that is silly. Though I guess gods are just like that in all the stories. But shouldn't there be more than one way to anything? Even immortality you can get from a divine power in one go or you can cultivate yourself. Isn't that 'begging others is the same as begging yourself'?
Somehow I don't think you need to worry about this. You and your π‘οΈ would both be like babies. Do babies feel sad because they can't walk? This is going to give your shifu a headache so I'm choosing to believe they don't. π«π‘οΈπ₯Ί.
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Date: 2022-11-06 06:48 pm (UTC)From:...I guess I can tell you what I was π for. It's another thing that's really embarrassing to not know, but since you told me about your mother... then I guess it's a little bit the same. I would want to π my father. He's a π like me, but I've never met him. I don't know if he's alive or not, or what he looks like... I only know his name, and he was really good at β¨ too. But if we can π all times and places here, then maybe I could see where he went and what happened to him... if something did happen. Or maybe he's just fine, but someplace that I haven't found him. It would just be nice to know something, I think. Anything. ...Or maybe it doesn't matter anymore. I'm not sure! It's been harder to think about lately, I guess. But the opportunity is there, for both a π and a π». So if it's there, shouldn't we take it while we can?
I haven't heard of "begging others is the same as begging yourself"? What is it? βοΈ-shifu said I shouldn't beg others for things, but he didn't say anything about begging myself. I'm not even sure how someone would do that. Or does it mean, if I can ask someone else to do something, then I can also just do it myself? I would agree with that.
A π»-shifu is being so mean to me and also my π‘οΈ! I would cover its ears if it had any! We're not babies; you're the baby. πΆ-shifu. ππ€ Even if my π‘οΈ isn't sad about not flying, I'll feel sad for it, knowing that it could be flying but isn't. Maybe I just want it to be the best π‘οΈ ever. Isn't that only right?
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Date: 2022-11-06 11:09 pm (UTC)From:Well it matters if you think it matters, and that's not embarrassing at all! Or it shouldn't be. That's a little different anyway, you want to know something very specific, and there's real questions to answer...Definitely worth π. Or I can see how it would be. It's fine to change how you feel, and a thing doesn't have to matter for you to be interested in knowing it. But still, we're the same in not knowing too many specifics, even if I don't have those same kinds of questions.
ππ ππ ππ That's exactly what it means. Though maybe that's as much encouragement to crack divine β¨ as I should be providing. πΆ π«β‘οΈπ¦΅π
πΆ-shifu ππππππ I'm not being mean! Flight takes awhile for even the most naturally talented cultivators to learn. But yes, with a sentiment like that you're already getting the hang of things and I'm sure your πΆπ‘οΈ will be the best π‘οΈ ever in time. Even if I have to put a π‘οΈπ» in it.
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Date: 2022-11-07 12:00 am (UTC)From:I'm... not sure if finding him matters. That's the hard part. But it would still be nice to know, I think? Or maybe I just want to know because I was so set on knowing before... I don't know what I would do with that information anymore. It's just... a lot of very specific questions, yes, like you said. Maybe boring questions for a π» to hear. And maybe it's not the same at all. I don't know. If a π» doesn't want to π, then maybe a π should leave it alone too.
ππ! Those are better. A π doesn't need encouragement to crack divine β¨ but it's nice to have! π«π¦΅! πβ¨ does not involve more 𦡠like πβ¨, there's nothing to worry about there.
π«πΆπ‘οΈ! ...π«π»! Why would you have to put a π» in my π‘οΈ?? Isn't that like possession? What if that upsets it? You say you're not being mean, but that does sound really mean! I have other things you can put π» into instead of my π‘οΈ...
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Date: 2022-11-07 11:39 pm (UTC)From:Not boring questions! I still don't know about messing with the catastrophic cataclysm but having concrete questions instead of just vaguely wishing you had more memories would have to be helpful, even if we found some kind of tool for it at the market instead. You can't say you wouldn't want to π just because of me though. And maybe you'd know what to do with the information once you had it, maybe it's not having it that causes some of the confusion. But I wouldn't want you to feel like you had to do anything with it. You know, if you decided you didn't want to. It's always so complicated, you know?
It's not 𦡠I'm worried about! It's a saying! You can have as many 𦡠as you like. What's so good about divine β¨ anyway? Who needs it? Besides paladins I think. π»ππ.
Well I mean if the regular π‘οΈβ¨ doesn't work, then it might be time to try a π». A π‘οΈπ» only! And only for π‘οΈ! Unless you write why it's for your cultivation. Normally you'd have to put the ghosts in on your own, if you wanted to forge a spiritual tool that way...or not normally, actually, definitely not. But theoretically, if that were the path you were taking. Like with the divine β¨, there has to be more than one way to anything.
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Date: 2022-11-08 12:24 am (UTC)From:Paladins do need divine β¨, and clerics too. And maybe πs can have a little, I think. It's for healing and protection... and sometimes for bringing people back from the dead. But in the socially acceptable way that isn't at all like necromancy (except in the ways that it obviously is!).
I don't understand... Does my π‘οΈ not have its own π»? Or if one needs to be put in, can't I put the π» in myself? I mean, not here obviously! But maybe once we've fixed everything and we get our β¨ back? Or is that a special kind of β¨ that's hard to learn too? I can practice really hard, if I have to! Did you put a π» in your sword? Did βοΈ put one in his?
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Date: 2022-11-15 02:07 am (UTC)From:Is it very hard to resurrect someone in the socially acceptable way? And is that the difference, just who does it? I guess that isn't so unusual. Still, it seems strange to even have a socially acceptable and a socially unacceptable way. But maybe that's the divine β¨ part. I guess this all makes sense and isn't even that different when I say it like this.
Well, it should develop its own spiritual consciousness through your advancing cultivation, so in a sense you would be putting the π» in the π‘οΈ yourself, but also not, because the π‘οΈ just does that. Does that make sense? That would be considered the ideal and most orthodox way, to the extent that doing anything else would be...questionable. So of course, βοΈ did not do such a thing as put a π» in a π‘οΈ. I didn't either actually, but not because of any of that, I was just busy. Anyway, you know if there was any problem, I would be sure to come up with a solution! But there's no need to worry about any of this, because you are still in the 'practice really hard' stage.
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Date: 2022-11-15 04:25 am (UTC)From:I don't know if it's very hard to resurrect someone in the socially acceptable way, but I do know it costs a lot of money. You need precious gems--or the money to pay for them, and then extra money to pay to the temple. Necromancy is easier, probably. If I could do either, I would do it for free. Maybe that's why πs aren't allowed to have divine β¨. All the gods and temples would be broke and also mad.
I know that a π»-shifu has a lot of solutions to problems that a π hasn't even made yet! But I'm still going to practice really hard, since that's the stage I'm in. I'll think very hard about my π‘οΈ having a π» in it, especially when I'm doing β¨. Do gifts help? I think you said that before, when I wanted to put a π» in a π³. I'll give it a lot of little gifts too, and make sure that it feels appreciated. π
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Date: 2022-11-17 12:08 am (UTC)From:Hang on. The gems aren't part of the money? They're part of the resurrecting? So you still need money too? That's pretty practical for a divine decision, but a little anticlimactic, too. I don't know how I feel about this.
They can't hurt. Make sure they're π‘οΈ appropriate gifts! Not π³ gifts. Clean it, store it properly--Is this what it feels like to be βοΈ? π»π€π΅. A fitting name, don't cut fruit with it, keep it with you, π»π€π΅ππ.
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Date: 2022-11-17 06:34 am (UTC)From:...I don't know. That's a lot of π» questions and π» maybes. I don't know what makes a pot a good one. Not having to make it yourself? Not having to fight for it? Is that a good answer? Maybe it's not even about the pot being good or not. I can't imagine any pot being bad, but if it was, then it was still mine. Someone still made a space for ππΌ. ...But maybe a βοΈ-shifu wouldn't want me to say that. I should have a good pot. A bad one is no good. Don't tell him I said the other thing. It's just hard, and maybe a ππΌ is being silly about wanting a specific pot that might not exist, regardless of whether it's good or bad.
What do you mean, you don't know how to feel about this? Is that so weird for magic to have specific components? Does your β¨ just work with anything you throw at it? You have to have diamonds to bring someone back to life. I'm not sure why... I just know that diamonds are used in a lot of magic that deals with divination or protection. Lots of life energy. Bright and good for seeing things.
Why would I cut fruit with my π‘οΈ??? It would get so dirty doing that. And sticky. It would definitely need to be cleaned often if I did that--which I'm not! ...Going to do that, I mean. I'm going to clean it! Every day if I have to! And I'll make a stand for it, so it can be comfortable when I'm not holding it. ...Can I keep it in my hammock when I sleep? Will that make a better π»? What if the π‘οΈ appropriate gifts are just that I love it a lot? I don't know what π‘οΈ appropriate gifts actually are... I don't know why π»π€π΅ππ! It should be πΏπ€π΅! For the π‘οΈ gifts!
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Date: 2022-11-20 09:32 pm (UTC)From:Mine does, because of all the talent, as I just said. But no, components are usually pretty specific, it's just that diamonds aren't generally one? For that, I would expect blood, though I suppose it's not that different from using precious substances like cinnabar, now I think about it that way. Mostly it was the money that was giving me problems, though.
π»π€π΅ππ just because! It's very funny for me to be saying these things with such a thick face considering I am guilty of breaking most of these rules as well as many others. But I got better, so you still have to listen to me. And don't think of it like you are going to make problems, you aren't. That's not what the solutions are for.
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Date: 2022-11-20 11:11 pm (UTC)From:Blood?? No wonder people make faces about reviving the dead, if you're using that... Even if you weren't reviving the dead, I think they would still make faces. The money is just to pay for the service, though. That's pretty standard, isn't it? Do you go to the doctor and not pay to be treated? I guess if the doctor was very nice, but I think that sounds unlikely.
...Are you sure you got better? You let me use your sword to draw in the sand the first day I met you. I could have run off with it! Not that I would have, but you barely even checked! Maybe I should give π»π‘οΈ a π‘οΈ gift too...
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Date: 2022-11-21 12:44 am (UTC)From:I didn't use blood all the time, and sometimes it wasn't even real blood, and anyway what's wrong with blood? Are people too good to use free blood now? Blood is too cheap compared to gemstones? Unbelievable. And can't doctors be nice where you're from? I can truthfully say I've never paid a doctor in my life.
I let you borrow Suibian for sand cultivation, which in that case was just like drawing an array. It sounds like you think the sand is the unorthodox part and not the borrowing, but I think both are fine, unless the π‘οΈ is especially cranky. Besides, I knew if you ran off with it I could catch you (π€) unless you ran up the wall like a π¦, which would have been worth seeing. π«ππ€·π‘οΈ necessary.
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Date: 2022-11-21 10:13 pm (UTC)From:Making a pot when you're not expected to sounds... good. I think. Too good, maybe. Would someone make a pot for a πΌ that wasn't theirs? Especially if the πΌ is maybe one that isn't liked so much. It sounds like a lot of work, and for what? To have a πΌ to look at? It doesn't sound like a good trade.
I guess it depends on what kind of blood you mean? Animal blood? Probably fine, but a little weird. Dragon blood? Super powerful, good for magic. People blood? Bad. Get out of town, don't come back. Maybe your blood is just weird and fine. Maybe your doctors are too. Do they have other jobs and don't need money to buy food and whatnot?
π«π«ππ€·π‘οΈ! Why the ππ€·?? They would be ππ or πβ¨, you can't doubt me like this... πΏπ₯Ί And the sand isn't unorthodox, it's just dirty. I hope you cleaned Suibian afterwards! If you didn't, maybe I'll run away with it for real. I'll crawl into something π€ where you can't get me, which is also like a π¦! Then I can have two π‘οΈ and they can be friends.
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Date: 2022-11-26 10:52 pm (UTC)From:And maybe at the same time people should be a little more restrained with their analogies, because I think I've lost track. Wouldn't someone make a pot? Wouldn't that mean they do like the πΌ actually? Maybe it's not that much work, or a trade. Maybe it's a noble πΌ! Did anyone consider it?
Get out of town??? So rude. It's free! Everyone is jealous of the blessing of clean living. As to doctors, it depends. Sometimes it's their cultivation, sometimes it's just their responsibility within the sect, sometimes it's probably like how people will pay cultivators with food. I don't have that much experience with civilian doctors, I guess, but I bet the good ones accept payment in food.
Not ππ€·, π€·π‘οΈ. I'm sure the π would be very π and β¨, π«πΏπ₯Ί. If I pretend I remember cleaning Suibian just because of a little sand, will that convince you not to steal it and hide like a π¦? If you want two spiritual weapons at least pick something that isn't π‘οΈ! Doesn't even have to be an instrument.
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Date: 2022-11-27 01:26 am (UTC)From:Maybe a πΏ just has too many π and she should put some of them away (π«π₯£π!) before she chases a π» into the π³π³π³.
I don't make the blood rules! I think if I did, there just wouldn't be any. I think if I was going to do some kind of illicit summoning ritual, I would use something much cooler than blood. Like etching the runes into stone with black pudding slime or something. Original! Complex! Mysterious! Unless demons only get summoned with blood because they don't like other flavors. Very picky demons, if so. Maybe they need more vegetables too. Maybe they can be bribed with food, like cultivators and doctors.
What is π€·π‘οΈ? Why is π€·π‘οΈ?? That's even worse then π€·π! πΏπ₯Ί! ...Maybe I can be convinced not to steal it and hide like a π¦, but I will not be convinced that it doesn't need π. I don't need two spiritual weapons, but what if I want two? Everyone else has an instrument. Are they all special? Like π‘οΈ? If not an instrument or a π‘οΈ, then what else is there? What are my options if I want a friend for my π‘οΈ? (If your π‘οΈ and my π‘οΈ can't be friends, which I think they should be because we are. Maybe yours can tell mine π‘οΈ secrets, and it'll be a good π‘οΈ one day.)
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