Maybe we should both practice our dodging, if we're going to be so unerringly correct at all times~
I'll point them out the next time they're in town! Then you do not need to be envious because you can also be the proud owner of a 🥔 spell. Problem solved~
Bards! ☁️🎼❗️ 🆗⛰️🎼❗️ 👻🎼❗️
Everyone is just bards apparently. Do you realize how strange that is? We don't have such a high concentration of bards where I'm from. Not unless you go to one of the bard colleges, but those are rare.
If we're leading a class, will we have students? Who is even correct enough to be part of our class?
Bards don't need to talk, I think? They don't just entertain people with poetry and stories. I mean, I guess they *could* and usually do, but that's not the sort of bard I mean.
The sort of bard that I mean is trained in ⚔️ and ️shapes magic with 🎼. It's a very primal sort of magic, not as (over)refined as organized wizardry--but because it's so raw and emotional, it makes them particularly good at enchantments and illusions. Things that affect a person's senses or the mind.
That's a good question, we'd have to have some kind of initial correctness test. Start small, both in terms of the throwing and the correctness.
Well I can see the similarities but musical cultivation isn't more primal than anything else? It just uses music imbued with spiritual power. Good for 👻s. If you are just going to fight people or 👻s you may as well use ⚔️ but if you want to cleanse an area or a person it is probably better to use 🎼. ⚔️ is very good for getting a 👻 out of a person but that's not exorcism, that's murder. I guess you can tell people or 👻s what to do with ⚔️ though. If you have a sword and tell someone to do something they usually at least strongly consider it. Not me, but most people.
What is small in terms of correctness? Or in terms of throwing? Basic facts and those tiny cushions that people set fancy things on?
Hmm. Bards don't usually fight 👻s. I think they *can*, but not usually. That's more the field of priests and clerics, I think. Or paladins, if they're particularly fight-y 👻s. But paladins are just clerics with ✨🗡️ anyway. Maybe a 🐎, too.
You don't have strong considerations with ⚔️? I think I would consider strongly, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I guess the problem with using ⚔️ as incentive with people is that you have to keep using ⚔️, and that pretty much ensures that you can never put it away. Must be tiring. Ultimately leads to those people using ⚔️, too. You would think everyone would get tired of ⚔️ eventually.
What *would* make you strongly consider something?
Oh, I was going to suggest that, but I thought you might object. I *could* make fancy pillows for throwing, but small rocks are much easier.
It's not that complicated if you live in it. You just do what you're capable of, and if you're not capable, then you find someone else. Sort of like how things work here, I guess. Except for the 🐎. Anyone can have 🐎s, but only paladins can make them out of magic. ✨🐎.
Or! I can provide you with excellent incentive into doing something that is also fun. I have a lot of great ideas that deserve strong considerations.
Maybe! Who knows, maybe you draw the line at throwing rocks at people. But clearly you do not.
Wait, are you talking about fighting with ✨🐎??? I think it's still just for getting around, aside from typical 🐎 combat. You know, kicking and biting. But I could be wrong! I do not actually know any paladins, and they would probably not like to know me, so we are on mutual footing.
There is no need to be suspicious! It's purely academic interest. Curiosity. Not intended for practical use.
Wei-xuesheng, you definitely would if it was funny enough! And I think I would be disappointed if you didn't--but more appreciative if it was aimed at someone else! 😔🙏👍
But no, I didn't think he was a paladin because he was scary. Maybe more the other way around? I thought he was a paladin because you basically described him like that! I asked if he was someone that helps people and vanquishes evil and is law-abiding and popular; and you said ✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️.
Wei-xuesheng 😹⚰️👻👻👻💨 This humble student will not let you down.
Well then technically *you* described him like that and I simply graded it accurately. You didn't ask about any ✨🐎. Surely a person can be good without being a paladin? Are the bards not doing all those things? Even I did some of those things.
Thank you, you're my best student, after all. 💯💯💯👨🎓
I guess a person can be good without being a paladin? But paladins are the ones that most people consider good, I think. Or they most talk about people considering them good? Like I said, I don't actually know any paladins! I've read some 📚, and I've seen some people that look like they were... 🧑✨🗡️🛡️✨🐎 But that's it.
I guess bards can also do those things. The very famous ones usually do--though not the law-abiding part. 🚫⚖️ They usually win their fame by being clever.
[He has to take a minute on this one. She guesses? Are there so few good people that they might be nearly mythical? Hold on, that actually sounds right.]
I guess it isn't as weird as I was thinking at first. How are the bards not law-abiding? Like...🆗⛰️ law, don't eat too many bowls of rice, don't drink or play around or make noise, or like...bard crime? Illegal music? Steal instruments?
Well... maybe? It depends! I don't think it's that they do things specifically because they're 🚫⚖️, but more like they don't care one way or another? Like stealing 👛 from rich people and giving it to those who need it. Or spying on 👹 and infiltrating their ranks so they can undermine their operations. You wouldn't have paladins doing things like that--they care about following ⚖️ too much, so they would be more direct about it. Probably charge into the 👹 and just start swinging 🗡️s.
Your ghosts lack meat and your bards lack crime. How unfortunate! But I think I understand now, yes. At least the bards sound like they have some sense. But you said there's not so many of them in concentration. Aren't there any...like the 🆗⛰️? A place for bards, a place for paladins, maybe not a ⛰️ but something? Bard 🏝️. Paladin ⛲. Why aren't they concentrated.
Oh, I'm sure you could find a concentration of paladins if you wanted to. Go to any temple in a large city, and you won't be able to toss a rock without hitting a cleric or paladin sworn to that deity.
Bards used to have a bunch of 🎶🏫, but most of them are gone now. I don't know why, but I only know of one. Even that one was gone for a few centuries, but they restarted it about 100 years ago? Ish? Please picture me shaking my hand from side to side. Bardic history and magic was not something I ever intended to study, you know.
I think it's been doing okay since then? People come from all over the continent to study there, but that might be because it's the only 🎶🏫 to go to. There *is* a ⛰️ nearby, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.
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Date: 2021-06-08 05:38 pm (UTC)From:I'll point them out the next time they're in town! Then you do not need to be envious because you can also be the proud owner of a 🥔 spell. Problem solved~
Bards! ☁️🎼❗️ 🆗⛰️🎼❗️ 👻🎼❗️
Everyone is just bards apparently. Do you realize how strange that is? We don't have such a high concentration of bards where I'm from. Not unless you go to one of the bard colleges, but those are rare.
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Date: 2021-06-08 08:20 pm (UTC)From:🚫 bards. Lan Zhan doesn't talk enough to be a bard. Cultivation with music, not poetry or stories. Not strange at all!
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Date: 2021-06-09 12:15 am (UTC)From:Bards don't need to talk, I think? They don't just entertain people with poetry and stories. I mean, I guess they *could* and usually do, but that's not the sort of bard I mean.
The sort of bard that I mean is trained in ⚔️ and ️shapes magic with 🎼. It's a very primal sort of magic, not as (over)refined as organized wizardry--but because it's so raw and emotional, it makes them particularly good at enchantments and illusions. Things that affect a person's senses or the mind.
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Date: 2021-06-09 01:32 am (UTC)From:Well I can see the similarities but musical cultivation isn't more primal than anything else? It just uses music imbued with spiritual power. Good for 👻s. If you are just going to fight people or 👻s you may as well use ⚔️ but if you want to cleanse an area or a person it is probably better to use 🎼. ⚔️ is very good for getting a 👻 out of a person but that's not exorcism, that's murder. I guess you can tell people or 👻s what to do with ⚔️ though. If you have a sword and tell someone to do something they usually at least strongly consider it. Not me, but most people.
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Date: 2021-06-12 08:19 pm (UTC)From:Hmm. Bards don't usually fight 👻s. I think they *can*, but not usually. That's more the field of priests and clerics, I think. Or paladins, if they're particularly fight-y 👻s. But paladins are just clerics with ✨🗡️ anyway. Maybe a 🐎, too.
You don't have strong considerations with ⚔️? I think I would consider strongly, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I guess the problem with using ⚔️ as incentive with people is that you have to keep using ⚔️, and that pretty much ensures that you can never put it away. Must be tiring. Ultimately leads to those people using ⚔️, too. You would think everyone would get tired of ⚔️ eventually.
What *would* make you strongly consider something?
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Date: 2021-06-13 04:22 pm (UTC)From:This seems like a very complicated system of who does what and who can have 🐎.
✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️ But people never get tired of ⚔️. That's why I use 👻 to change things up a bit.
How can I tell you that? You might use my weaknesses against me and make me strongly consider things.
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Date: 2021-06-13 05:29 pm (UTC)From:It's not that complicated if you live in it. You just do what you're capable of, and if you're not capable, then you find someone else. Sort of like how things work here, I guess. Except for the 🐎. Anyone can have 🐎s, but only paladins can make them out of magic. ✨🐎.
Or! I can provide you with excellent incentive into doing something that is also fun. I have a lot of great ideas that deserve strong considerations.
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Date: 2021-06-13 08:22 pm (UTC)From:✨🐎❓❓❓ ✨🐎... ✨🐎!!! ⚔️ is still more efficient than having a whole separate ✨🐎 but what about style? We didn't consider it.
Well I don't need incentive for that. Usually fun is its own incentive! The fact you think you need incentives makes me suspicious.
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Date: 2021-06-13 09:56 pm (UTC)From:Wait, are you talking about fighting with ✨🐎??? I think it's still just for getting around, aside from typical 🐎 combat. You know, kicking and biting. But I could be wrong! I do not actually know any paladins, and they would probably not like to know me, so we are on mutual footing.
There is no need to be suspicious! It's purely academic interest. Curiosity. Not intended for practical use.
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Date: 2021-06-14 06:13 pm (UTC)From:Are you sure paladins exist, if you don't know any? Are you afraid of the ✨🐎?
Then I will tell you academically it just isn't possible to make me consider more than weakly at best, and even that isn't very reliable.
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Date: 2021-06-15 06:54 am (UTC)From:Paladins are definitely real, as are ✨🐎. And they are both terrifying in their own right. I thought Lan Wangji was one at first...
I am taking academic notes as we speak. Subject: Wei Wuxian. Is not strongly considerate of anything.
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Date: 2021-06-15 06:19 pm (UTC)From:Did you think that just because he was scary? No ✨🐎, ✨🗡️ questionable. Seems harsh! At least you know now that he is very good like I said.
✔️✔️✔️ Good start. Probably a waste of your academic energies, but solid.
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Date: 2021-06-17 12:26 am (UTC)From:But no, I didn't think he was a paladin because he was scary. Maybe more the other way around? I thought he was a paladin because you basically described him like that! I asked if he was someone that helps people and vanquishes evil and is law-abiding and popular; and you said ✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️.
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Date: 2021-06-17 04:03 am (UTC)From:Well then technically *you* described him like that and I simply graded it accurately. You didn't ask about any ✨🐎. Surely a person can be good without being a paladin? Are the bards not doing all those things? Even I did some of those things.
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Date: 2021-06-17 04:22 am (UTC)From:I guess a person can be good without being a paladin? But paladins are the ones that most people consider good, I think. Or they most talk about people considering them good? Like I said, I don't actually know any paladins! I've read some 📚, and I've seen some people that look like they were... 🧑✨🗡️🛡️✨🐎 But that's it.
I guess bards can also do those things. The very famous ones usually do--though not the law-abiding part. 🚫⚖️ They usually win their fame by being clever.
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Date: 2021-06-18 01:36 am (UTC)From:[He has to take a minute on this one. She guesses? Are there so few good people that they might be nearly mythical? Hold on, that actually sounds right.]
I guess it isn't as weird as I was thinking at first. How are the bards not law-abiding? Like...🆗⛰️ law, don't eat too many bowls of rice, don't drink or play around or make noise, or like...bard crime? Illegal music? Steal instruments?
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Date: 2021-06-19 11:21 pm (UTC)From:Does that make sense?
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Date: 2021-06-20 07:27 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2021-06-20 09:38 pm (UTC)From:Bards used to have a bunch of 🎶🏫, but most of them are gone now. I don't know why, but I only know of one. Even that one was gone for a few centuries, but they restarted it about 100 years ago? Ish? Please picture me shaking my hand from side to side. Bardic history and magic was not something I ever intended to study, you know.
I think it's been doing okay since then? People come from all over the continent to study there, but that might be because it's the only 🎶🏫 to go to. There *is* a ⛰️ nearby, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.