And you definitely don't. In this tangent the frogs would be the cultivators, not me, do you see now? I don't think frogs have any propensity for cultivation, nor are they the result of cultivation. I think they're just frogs and I'm willing to draw swords about it.
It's the faces that are weird, and not the slime or bulgy throats or sticky hands? That doesn't seem right. But they're still just frogs, so it's allowed for them to be like that. We don't have to fight just yet.
The problem is Lans not being pushed into enough lakes. They are telling me frogs are cultivated tadpoles and I'm just not going to stand for it. βοΈβοΈβοΈ
You make excellent points. The faces, the slime, the throats, the feet. it's all weird! Frogs are just weirdly shaped things, and I'm glad we don't have to fight about it.
The big big one or the less big one? Or both? Are you going to fight both of them? Or just push them into a lake? I'll watch either way, but I think you're in for a bad time if it's the former. π€
What does cultivating entail anyway? Isn't that just magic? Are they saying frogs are magical?
Can't believe I forgot to mention the tongues they shoot out. Frogs π€ weird. But also they're normal.
How can you say I would be in for a bad time??? I fought Lan Zhan at πβ°οΈ and we were equals! But maybe the lake is a better bet. I will just say it's to improve their cultivation and no one can fault me. Least of all the little Lan, he's in on it.
Cultivation is the path to immortality through self improvement, everything along the way is just a bonus. So they're saying frogs are all exceptionally advanced tadpole cultivators and that clearly can't be. βοΈ
And the bulging eyes! Eyes are supposed to fit into their head, not on top of it. Frogs π€ very weird, but unfortunately normal.
And I am not saying who is stronger than who! But I thought we agreed that trying to shove Lan Wangji into a lake just wouldn't do? Like, he just simply wouldn't go. How do you expect to overcome that sheer amount of resistance? Do you have a plan for that? If so, I'd like to bet 10,000G that it won't work.
Oh, I see. That's why you want confirmation that frogs can be old. Hmm... Have you considered telling them that they've been drinking immortality elixirs? That is apparently a thing. If they want to insist on the unhinged delusion that frogs are immortal, then maybe they're not doing weird immortality magic at all.
Besides, I don't think frogs can even read. You would think the first thing they'd self-improve is their literacy.
I don't have a plan...yet. Maybe if I convince him about frogs it won't come to that.
Klaudia, no!!! Who is making elixirs for frogs??? And why? You can't say the frogs are doing it, then we're back where we started. But I appreciate you calling this theory unhinged and delusional.
I think a frog could become sufficiently advanced to read, but I think a tadpole would be too wet and small. I don't think reading is necessary though. Someone had to write the books, right?
Does that mean you're not taking my bet? I will extend it to any plan you come up with, if only because it's win-win for me. Either I make money, or I get to see you push Lan Wangji into a lake. There's simply no downside for me.
I don't know who is making the elixirs! βοΈ said that there's a rabbit that makes them on the moon. If that's true, then maybe it tosses a few down to the frogs.
Tadpoles don't have hands, either, so they can't hold books or turn pages. Completely unproductive to reading. I don't think they can write, either--though frogs might be able to. Seems like it'd be very clumsy, though.
That makes sense. And if not the rabbit then maybe the toad, in solidarity.
I think there's just no books involved at all. For there to be cultivation books, someone had to cultivate with no books first, right? So it's possible. Maybe that's what all the yelling is about. Frog library.
π»π€π Please note that I must be there to witness the fulfillment of this bet! Also don't tell βοΈ. There is a saying that goes: Snitches get stitches. By which I mean I will definitely punch you in the arm and it will hurt.
Are there toads making immortality elixirs too??? Why do you have so many animals that know how to make people immortal. (Two is not "so many", but it *is* weird that it happened twice.) Your argument about frogs not being immortal is starting to feel like it has holes in it. The only thing keeping me from switching sides is that I am not good at βοΈ...
Aren't libraries supposed to be quiet? That aside, you know we could just ask an animal mage to turn into a frog and tell us what they're saying. Maybe we'll get secret frog knowledge, too. π€π€«πΈπ
But Klaudia you didn't say that to start! What if my plan was just to offer to split the winnings? π«ππͺ
There's said to be a toad on the moon, which may also be the goddess. There's too many conflicting stories to be sure, and anyway that wouldn't count because she didn't start out a toad. My argument is still just fine! Some frogs can attain immortality, I just draw the line at all of them. βοΈπ
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I probably prefer traditional cultivation methods over whatever frogs have got. But I also don't suppose it could hurt to check. Get one who can do snakes too.
You can't just offer to split the winnings with him! At that point, that's just me paying you to push him into the water. That's neither a bet nor any fun. ππ» π«ππ»
Wait, which goddess? Chang'e? Or are there two goddesses? Did she go to the moon and then also turn into a toad? And also learn how to make the elixir from the rabbit or something? (ππ π«βοΈπ)
Why are snakes involved? Are they also making elixirs??? Maybe you should stop having elixir-making animals. Did you consider that? Now I'm even more confused as to why it mattered that one elixir almost got stolen, when you apparently have three million animals that are pumping these things out like everyone is making a run on the elixir market.
Come on, it's a little bit fun and you didn't say I couldn't. You'd still get to see! And I'd get to negotiate. β ππ»
Yes, Chang'e. She either went to the moon and was a toad sometimes or there just was one there. Usually the toad is shown separate, and you don't see it making elixir, but it might borrow some. For the πΈs.
I don't know if the snakes are also making elixirs! You're too fixated on the elixir. But they do cultivate to a human form sometimes so they might be and I forgot. I asked βοΈ if he thought the lack of limbs helped (πππ) and I have not since known peace.
Hmm. Are you saying that you can't do this without having his permission? I am still not saying which of you is stronger, but I will say that wouldn't be evidence in your favor if I *were* keeping track. Which I'm not. (βοΈ +1)
I am not too fixated on the elixirs. It's weird that you have elixirs in the first place. But the snakes just sound like they're shape shifting, and that's not especially weird. Polymorphed snakes? Were-snakes? Nagas? ππ
I *am* glad that βοΈ is not giving you peace, though. You probably don't deserve it. π
I'm saying I wouldn't! I probably wouldn't. The point isn't if I would or not, and I didn't say I was stronger! I'm not falling for this! π» +1!
It's not weird and that's what's weird! Why is it snakes so often? The Lan bullies are saying it's just water, and I can see why they'd think that, they have a whole pond that would probably be producing immortal snakes at a high rate if they didn't, I don't know, probably take the snakes somewhere else. As a chore. For the juniors. Don't question this, I'm not going to either. I just think not having limbs probably makes it easier to concentrate. Don't worry about the elixir, there's not as much going around as stories make it sound. One snake did get some but even that had to come from a god, albeit indirectly.
That's very mean, can't you see I'm going through something here? There is so much bullying in the world today. π
I think people have the impression that snakes are very deceptive. Wouldn't that be a fitting story then, if they tricked others by turning into people? How scary that would be, not knowing if the person you meet is a person or a snake. (Scary for others, but not for me, obviously. I don't see anything wrong with talking to a snake. I bet they would have very interesting things to say.)
But I bet that's why it's often snakes! I don't think it has anything to do with limbs or water, just people being dumb. So there. π
Didn't you admit that you started it? Am I supposed to feel bad that your actions have consequences? I don't think you get to count that as bullying!
I won't accept this slander, and I don't. π»+5 Anyway we're definitely equal now.
But it couldn't all just be stories, sometimes it just is snakes. If I wanted to lie about, say, what I encountered in a cave, I might say it was a snake. But statistically it might be which is part of why it works! Snakes and foxes are notoriously tricky, but maybe frogs are trickier because we don't know they are. Unfortunately I think the Lans might be on to something. Shhhh.
It was an innocent question! I didn't start the bullying. I am a harmless π» who does not bully and only asks for knowledge.
π€ Okay, fiiiine. I guess π» and βοΈ can be equal and even, but please note that you're on thin ice. If you want to talk your way into pushing Lan Wangji into a lake, then you can do that. I will be surprised if he agrees to that anyway.
Oh no, the delusion is catching. Now you think that frogs might have secrets, too. We are definitely going to need an intervention. I can't watch all of us succumb to these amphibious mysteries. πΏπ
I am pretty sure you've bullied me before, so I know that's a lie. No harmless π» here~
I'll be surprised too! That's part of the fun, and honestly if it works I deserve that prize money. Though I won't get it, because I'll already have used it as a bribe.
Well they might have secrets! Lans are very convincing! I should have asked about salamanders too while I was at it.
I've been nothing but respectful to the sand cultivator, how could you say this? I'm so harmless and not scary at all, remember?
Even worse! At that point, am I not just paying him to allow you to push him into a lake? I can not believe you're reducing yourself to a middleman.
...Better you than me, though. He can give you the disapproving βοΈ face and I will remain innocent as a newborn~
Also, using my words against me is not harmless! I'm pretty sure that I said you can be a little bit scary if it makes you feel better. Or that I would pretend as much. So by the logic, am I not allowed to say that you're bullying me to uphold your scary reputation? π» bullying is very scary~
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Date: 2021-08-02 01:09 am (UTC)From:But tell me about the frog tangent. Do I get to call you a frog cultivator now?
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Date: 2021-08-02 01:33 am (UTC)From:And you definitely don't. In this tangent the frogs would be the cultivators, not me, do you see now? I don't think frogs have any propensity for cultivation, nor are they the result of cultivation. I think they're just frogs and I'm willing to draw swords about it.
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Date: 2021-08-02 01:54 am (UTC)From:But feel free to tell me who you are drawing βοΈ with. I want to watch. ππ
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Date: 2021-08-02 02:13 am (UTC)From:The problem is Lans not being pushed into enough lakes. They are telling me frogs are cultivated tadpoles and I'm just not going to stand for it. βοΈβοΈβοΈ
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Date: 2021-08-02 02:42 am (UTC)From:The big big one or the less big one? Or both? Are you going to fight both of them? Or just push them into a lake? I'll watch either way, but I think you're in for a bad time if it's the former. π€
What does cultivating entail anyway? Isn't that just magic? Are they saying frogs are magical?
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Date: 2021-08-02 03:37 am (UTC)From:How can you say I would be in for a bad time??? I fought Lan Zhan at πβ°οΈ and we were equals! But maybe the lake is a better bet. I will just say it's to improve their cultivation and no one can fault me. Least of all the little Lan, he's in on it.
Cultivation is the path to immortality through self improvement, everything along the way is just a bonus. So they're saying frogs are all exceptionally advanced tadpole cultivators and that clearly can't be. βοΈ
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Date: 2021-08-02 05:01 am (UTC)From:And I am not saying who is stronger than who! But I thought we agreed that trying to shove Lan Wangji into a lake just wouldn't do? Like, he just simply wouldn't go. How do you expect to overcome that sheer amount of resistance? Do you have a plan for that? If so, I'd like to bet 10,000G that it won't work.
Oh, I see. That's why you want confirmation that frogs can be old. Hmm... Have you considered telling them that they've been drinking immortality elixirs? That is apparently a thing. If they want to insist on the unhinged delusion that frogs are immortal, then maybe they're not doing weird immortality magic at all.
Besides, I don't think frogs can even read. You would think the first thing they'd self-improve is their literacy.
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Date: 2021-08-02 06:07 am (UTC)From:Klaudia, no!!! Who is making elixirs for frogs??? And why? You can't say the frogs are doing it, then we're back where we started. But I appreciate you calling this theory unhinged and delusional.
I think a frog could become sufficiently advanced to read, but I think a tadpole would be too wet and small. I don't think reading is necessary though. Someone had to write the books, right?
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Date: 2021-08-02 04:21 pm (UTC)From:I don't know who is making the elixirs! βοΈ said that there's a rabbit that makes them on the moon. If that's true, then maybe it tosses a few down to the frogs.
Tadpoles don't have hands, either, so they can't hold books or turn pages. Completely unproductive to reading. I don't think they can write, either--though frogs might be able to. Seems like it'd be very clumsy, though.
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Date: 2021-08-02 05:45 pm (UTC)From:That makes sense. And if not the rabbit then maybe the toad, in solidarity.
I think there's just no books involved at all. For there to be cultivation books, someone had to cultivate with no books first, right? So it's possible. Maybe that's what all the yelling is about. Frog library.
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Date: 2021-08-02 09:47 pm (UTC)From:Are there toads making immortality elixirs too??? Why do you have so many animals that know how to make people immortal. (Two is not "so many", but it *is* weird that it happened twice.) Your argument about frogs not being immortal is starting to feel like it has holes in it. The only thing keeping me from switching sides is that I am not good at βοΈ...
Aren't libraries supposed to be quiet? That aside, you know we could just ask an animal mage to turn into a frog and tell us what they're saying. Maybe we'll get secret frog knowledge, too. π€π€«πΈπ
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Date: 2021-08-02 10:28 pm (UTC)From:There's said to be a toad on the moon, which may also be the goddess. There's too many conflicting stories to be sure, and anyway that wouldn't count because she didn't start out a toad. My argument is still just fine! Some frogs can attain immortality, I just draw the line at all of them. βοΈπ
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I probably prefer traditional cultivation methods over whatever frogs have got. But I also don't suppose it could hurt to check. Get one who can do snakes too.
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Date: 2021-08-02 10:40 pm (UTC)From:Wait, which goddess? Chang'e? Or are there two goddesses? Did she go to the moon and then also turn into a toad? And also learn how to make the elixir from the rabbit or something? (ππ π«βοΈπ)
Why are snakes involved? Are they also making elixirs??? Maybe you should stop having elixir-making animals. Did you consider that? Now I'm even more confused as to why it mattered that one elixir almost got stolen, when you apparently have three million animals that are pumping these things out like everyone is making a run on the elixir market.
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Date: 2021-08-02 11:34 pm (UTC)From:Yes, Chang'e. She either went to the moon and was a toad sometimes or there just was one there. Usually the toad is shown separate, and you don't see it making elixir, but it might borrow some. For the πΈs.
I don't know if the snakes are also making elixirs! You're too fixated on the elixir. But they do cultivate to a human form sometimes so they might be and I forgot. I asked βοΈ if he thought the lack of limbs helped (πππ) and I have not since known peace.
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Date: 2021-08-03 12:21 am (UTC)From:I am not too fixated on the elixirs. It's weird that you have elixirs in the first place. But the snakes just sound like they're shape shifting, and that's not especially weird. Polymorphed snakes? Were-snakes? Nagas? ππ
I *am* glad that βοΈ is not giving you peace, though. You probably don't deserve it. π
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Date: 2021-08-03 12:50 am (UTC)From:It's not weird and that's what's weird! Why is it snakes so often? The Lan bullies are saying it's just water, and I can see why they'd think that, they have a whole pond that would probably be producing immortal snakes at a high rate if they didn't, I don't know, probably take the snakes somewhere else. As a chore. For the juniors. Don't question this, I'm not going to either. I just think not having limbs probably makes it easier to concentrate. Don't worry about the elixir, there's not as much going around as stories make it sound. One snake did get some but even that had to come from a god, albeit indirectly.
That's very mean, can't you see I'm going through something here? There is so much bullying in the world today. π
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Date: 2021-08-03 02:59 am (UTC)From:This does not look very equal to me... π
I think people have the impression that snakes are very deceptive. Wouldn't that be a fitting story then, if they tricked others by turning into people? How scary that would be, not knowing if the person you meet is a person or a snake. (Scary for others, but not for me, obviously. I don't see anything wrong with talking to a snake. I bet they would have very interesting things to say.)
But I bet that's why it's often snakes! I don't think it has anything to do with limbs or water, just people being dumb. So there. π
Didn't you admit that you started it? Am I supposed to feel bad that your actions have consequences? I don't think you get to count that as bullying!
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Date: 2021-08-03 05:09 am (UTC)From:But it couldn't all just be stories, sometimes it just is snakes. If I wanted to lie about, say, what I encountered in a cave, I might say it was a snake. But statistically it might be which is part of why it works! Snakes and foxes are notoriously tricky, but maybe frogs are trickier because we don't know they are. Unfortunately I think the Lans might be on to something. Shhhh.
It was an innocent question! I didn't start the bullying. I am a harmless π» who does not bully and only asks for knowledge.
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Date: 2021-08-03 05:38 am (UTC)From:Oh no, the delusion is catching. Now you think that frogs might have secrets, too. We are definitely going to need an intervention. I can't watch all of us succumb to these amphibious mysteries. πΏπ
I am pretty sure you've bullied me before, so I know that's a lie. No harmless π» here~
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Date: 2021-08-08 04:47 pm (UTC)From:Well they might have secrets! Lans are very convincing! I should have asked about salamanders too while I was at it.
I've been nothing but respectful to the sand cultivator, how could you say this? I'm so harmless and not scary at all, remember?
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Date: 2021-08-10 01:22 am (UTC)From:...Better you than me, though. He can give you the disapproving βοΈ face and I will remain innocent as a newborn~
Also, using my words against me is not harmless! I'm pretty sure that I said you can be a little bit scary if it makes you feel better. Or that I would pretend as much. So by the logic, am I not allowed to say that you're bullying me to uphold your scary reputation? π» bullying is very scary~