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Date: 2021-12-20 06:13 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (only so so)
Those are fair and valid points, as expected of the sand cultivator, but cruelty is less expected. You could still have let him pick a different picture for himself.

Date: 2021-12-20 07:00 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (when will i learn)
He already gave up and would have taken one of the other options, pushing further than that wasn't necessary. Bullying is fun when people fight back, but not respecting a surrender is very harsh.

Being nice to him was working really well, I thought, up until then. Explaining your reasoning could also have worked, he's more reasonable than a lot of people. I haven't asked you not to use my name around him, have I?

Date: 2021-12-20 04:21 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (can a ghost possess another ghost)
There are options between fighting outright and being friendly! But it's not really proof I am trying to get, anyway.

Is it rude to want to pick something for yourself? Do you really want to be in charge of 'doing anything about it'? Why would you want that?

Date: 2021-12-20 05:21 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (better not be any wwx in here)
Why does anyone have to? I don't understand. I didn't think you liked that type of nobility.

🐦🤝 matters!! I don't see why it would stop mattering if he uses that picture. And I don't think he's expecting everything to change for him! I don't think he knows what to expect at all, that's part of why this seems so harsh. I thought you would be more willing to be generous to someone who doesn't want to fight me or even avoid me.

Date: 2021-12-20 06:05 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (no face journeys)
Well that's good. 👻🤝👿 👎 petty nobility.

You don't have to do anything! But you're choosing to do some things. I don't want you to just give something of ours, I wanted to share! Just a little bit. For my sake. I thought it would paint him in a better light.

This is what I mean! You wouldn't want me to know a friend was here? What if I had been like that to you in the beginning? Instead of trying to help you and Lan Zhan be friends? You don't have to, but I thought it would be nice.

Date: 2021-12-20 07:38 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (it's how i feel)
I'm not sure he's been awful since the first time, which was definitely awful but was also a mistake. And I think both of you need to stop acting like I can or can't tell anyone what they can do. I know you don't know him, and I know I can't make you, and I don't even want to. But he doesn't even know anyone else here besides me and Hanguang-jun, who else is he going to tell if something upsets him? And calling him names is definitely upsetting.

I know it's not the same at all, but hasn't he been nice too, after the initial mistake? He could teach you things, and wouldn't think your questions are wrong. But even if you don't get anything for it, and even if you're not nice, I wouldn't expect you to upset him on purpose like it's a game. It's not them I'm comparing.

Date: 2021-12-20 08:35 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (well stop)
Me! Or Lan Zhan! Why are you acting like it would be the same as when you first got here, now? Why not tell me why you're upset and see if it's the same.

And what am I meant to think you're being, if not cruel? Why be worse? I didn't think I was asking for that much.

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Date: 2021-12-20 09:44 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (i can hear this image)
[What is she saying?? That he's biased? TOO biased, and in favour of Nie Huaisang? Parts of this are absurd, and parts are uncomfortably accurate, and parts he's no longer sure of at all. It will take him some time, a few circlings maybe, to figure things out.]

It is different from you, so much different! Is that what this is about? You felt like I liked my old friend better, that I took his side? Klaudia there aren't any sides! Or there don't have to be. And he's not even really more familiar, I don't remember the last time I saw him before I died...He wasn't there, and isn't scared of me now, and I thought that was pretty lucky, you know? The odds aren't good, for my generation. But that doesn't mean you have to treat him a particular way, it's true.

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Date: 2021-12-20 10:11 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (shrimp emotions)
[But none of that really matters, if he's wronged his present friend in the process. It's just easy to forget that she's not as brash as the face she puts on.]

I don't know if you were being cruel deliberately or not, but it's not up to me either way, only you would know that. But maybe you should think about it awhile, before telling me. Or not telling me, if you want.

You don't have to worry about me liking him better than you, it's not a competition. You're my friend, you would stand up for me against dogs or small Lans or probably anything! (Don't do it though) Do you think I can find that just anywhere? You're also smart and very respectable even by Lan Zhan's standards and usually only mean when it's very funny. Clearly you are possessed currently to even be thinking like this, but it's fine because you're friends with the most powerful ghost cultivator, for life and also the next life, as a bird. Do you want an essay too? Or are you convinced?

Date: 2021-12-21 12:34 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (in the arms of the warmest color)
[The relief Wei Wuxian feels is likewise overwhelming, and disorienting in its variety. Klaudia isn't making any more threats of real bullying, seems like a known and treasured quantity again, more alike than not in the willingness to make jokes around pain without trying to cause more.]

I wouldn't just say it if I didn't mean it, would I? I'm not mad, I was...surprised, a little. We may not even be possessed by evil spirits at all.

[He doesn't want to push his luck, especially after he gave her the space to avoid it, but doesn't it deserve acknowledgement if he wants it to stick?]

If it was possession, it was a pretty mean ghost, and I'm glad there won't be any evil bird magic to contend with.

Date: 2021-12-21 04:01 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (then what's to prove)
You don't have to worry that I'll think otherwise regardless of any curses from Nie Huaisang. And I do see that it was a joke in...bad taste, considering a lot of things. But I think he meant it the opposite of how it sounded. Like when I say something about Hanguang-jun to prove a point. The joke was not trusting me, not the idea that somebody would in the first place. I think he knows I respect you a lot, and assumed it was the same for you, and made a joke that referenced that, since you don't trust him yourself.

But, if it happens again, instead of getting cursed about it, you could just tell him to not do that. If you can tell him what pictures he can and can't use, that should be easy. Or if you really don't like something he says about me, you could talk to me about it, still without curses. Though I don't think it will happen again.

Date: 2021-12-21 04:17 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (wack)
I don't think he would threaten anybody! But if he's actually rude, you can curse him a little bit I guess. But try not to curse him for jokes he doesn't know are bad, at least until he learns more. I think he didn't know the picture was such a big deal, but will listen, especially now. I think this is all just a whole lot of worry about Nie Huaisang that isn't necessary! And it's not running to me in a bad way if there's a real reason. 🤏🐍 🚫🔪🐦

Date: 2021-12-22 07:15 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] raveyardpatriarch
raveyardpatriarch: (o damn)
[This text is clearly the hard-won result of a mental ordeal.]

I guess it's a combination of things. He wasn't a clan leader when I knew him, and didn't really want to be. I think he barely wanted to be a cultivator at all, definitely not any of the parts that require a sword. When we were trapped and thought we would have to fight through a wall of fierce corpses that weren't really corpses, he got so scared Lan Zhan had to silence him (funny, not too mean). I guess it's hard for me to think he might be any different from then, even if I didn't see him much even when I was still alive and kind of forgot about him. It isn't like ☁️, but he hasn't seen me at my worst. Surely heard about it though, and still isn't really scared, even though he's scared of a lot of things. Who knows why he isn't this time? I don't really need to.

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